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To: Danae

You are taking that out of context. Try reading the whole thing. To paraphrase, that deciction states that there is a theory that people born here to non-citizens are not natural born, but specifically states that it was not necesarry to rule on that issue in that case. Courts generally do not rule on issues in cases if they have a simpler way to settle it. In that case, they decided that since the plainriff as clearly a citizen, and that was all they needed to know, they didn’t have to decide deal with it.

In the common sense use of the language, anyone born a citizen is natural born, in that they don’t need to be “naturalized”. There are no precendents creating a third kind of citizen. That’s why all the birther lawsuits ultimately go nowhere.


116 posted on 01/27/2012 10:58:46 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Hugin

Dude.... woah. Talk about misinterpreting a SCOTUS case...

Virgina Minor attempted to use the 14th Amendment to establish her citizenship and rights to vote. The court refused to allow her to use the 14th, because her citizenship status was that of a Natural Born Citizen having been born in the United States to two parents who were it’s citizens. Therefore the 14th Amendment did NOT apply to her. It only applied to those who needed it to establish their CITIZENSHIP. Because she was a Natural Born Citizen, she could not use it.

This case, in making the distinction between citizenship and Natural Born Citizenship HAD to specifically define what an NBC was, and so the SCOTUS DID, because it was necessary in the justification of the case itself - and we see that in the Holding in the case. Go read the WHOLE case dude. Stop just reading bits and pieces your buddies forward to you in order to get you to erroneously support after-birther baloney. It is a DESPERATE attempt of the establishment (which includes establishment democrats AND republicans) who WANT the constitution out of their way.

STOP BEING A TOOL DUDE.


128 posted on 01/28/2012 12:35:48 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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