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To: VanDeKoik

When the Russians build them they are either very good or deadly to everyone involved.
Russian subs are very tough but they throw safety standards out the window and sometimes they take a dive and never come up.
Thier rocket program was the gold standard but they lost quite a few comsonauts and had some really large explosions.
Just because something is unique doesnt make it useful.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 8:18:12 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Yorlik803

>>>>>>>>>>>>>When the Russians build them they are either very good or deadly to everyone involved.
Russian subs are very tough but they throw safety standards out the window and sometimes they take a dive and never come up.
Thier rocket program was the gold standard but they lost quite a few comsonauts and had some really large explosions.
Just because something is unique doesnt make it useful.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As for their manned space program they lost much less crewmen comparing to NASA. Not to mention Russian space program was much more expensive. In reality, based on per mission ratio Russian cosmonaut has some 50 times more chance to survive his flight vs US counterpart.

Anyway, overall Russian safety standards are pretty inferior. It starts with a way of driving vehicles and muzzle awareness by teenage students up to operating nuclear subs and supersonic aircraft by trained professionals.

Just for example Germany loosing a couple dozen people annually drowning in rivers and lakes while Russia loosing several thousand who dies this way.


19 posted on 01/27/2012 8:34:14 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Yorlik803

expensive=extensive


20 posted on 01/27/2012 8:37:03 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Yorlik803

In 1961, at Baikonur(sp?), a manned rocket began the launch sequence. It was a three stage launch system, and when the count hit zero, the main engines failed to fire. Perplexed, engineers cautiously approached the rocket after verifying the the connections were correct, but knowing that the second stage seperation sequence had continued unimpeded.The seperation engines fired on the pad in a spectacular explosion killing hundreds of folks in an around the cosmodrome.

Around 1967, an incident in the Soviet Union would have a direct impact on our program occured when a young cosmonaut was brought to a hospital with horrific burns over 90% of his body. He had been training in a O2 saturated environment and was using a hot plate in there. It ignited some cotton on the cosmonauts clothes, literally lighting the air on fire. Had the Russians bothered to share this hard won info, we could saved Grissom and his crew..

And then there was the woman cosmonaut’s voice heard in the blind on shortwave as she burned up on on re-entry..


21 posted on 01/27/2012 8:38:04 AM PST by cardinal4 (Bolton/Arpaio 2012 "Kick the UN across the border!")
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To: Yorlik803

The Ground Effect Vehicles had turbofans. They had the potential to carry nuclear warheads in the missiles they carry. This is REALLY BAD WRITING. Why should I trust anything in a “business” publication that runs intentionally misleading headlines?


54 posted on 01/27/2012 3:50:38 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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