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And We Should Hate Newt Gingrich for This?
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/26/and-we-should-hate-newt-gingrich-for-this/ ^ | 1-26-2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/27/2012 5:31:23 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather

All the members of the Republican Party who have been complicit and collaborative in the destruction of our nation in the past few decades always talking about smaller government while never fighting against the tide of creeping socialism have now come out against Newt Gingrich.

Yesterday, at National Review, Elliot Abrams attacked Newt Gingrich for attacking Ronald Reagan from the right.

Today, it is Bob Dole’s turn.

Bob Dole, you will remember from George Stephanoupolos’s memoir of his time in Clinton’s White House, totally cut the legs out from under Newt Gingrich and House Republicans during the government shut down. According to the Democrats, they were within twenty-four hours of caving to the House Republicans’ demands, but Bob Dole surprised them all by caving first.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bobdole; dole; establishment; gingrich; hate; newt; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Thanks for clarifying.


41 posted on 01/27/2012 6:39:36 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: CAluvdubya

If you or anyone else thinks Rush is pro-Newt, there’s not much I can say, and I’m too busy to lift quotes. If there’s an audio around and I come across it, I’ll post it.


42 posted on 01/27/2012 6:40:00 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

RINOs frantically struggling to perpetuate the RINO party at any cost, even if it means permitting the GREAT IMPOSTER to be reelected. Get your head out, morons!


43 posted on 01/27/2012 6:40:32 AM PST by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Thanks, but I’ve been listening to Rush for a long, long time. I don’t misunderstand him.


44 posted on 01/27/2012 6:42:44 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Bob Dole is why I'm not a republican now.

Bush the elder made me doubt the party and Dole vs Clinton convinced me my doubt was well founded.

After the Dole's latest hatchet job, I am more convinced than ever before that Newt should be the nominee.

45 posted on 01/27/2012 6:44:56 AM PST by GBA (Natural Born American)
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To: Lady Lucky
If you or anyone else thinks Rush is pro-Newt, there’s not much I can say, and I’m too busy to lift quotes.

Two posters on this thread alone have directed you to the same thread that shows that Rush was NOT attacking Newt yesterday.

If you don't "have time" to research/understand what you're talking about, then don't make ill-informed comments.

46 posted on 01/27/2012 6:48:33 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Limbaugh defends Newt: Coordinated Avalanche Against Newt Doesn’t Match My Memory of Reagan Years

Michael Reagan also endorsed Newt after this.

47 posted on 01/27/2012 6:51:12 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Honorary Serb

I drank a lot of the official kool-aid at that time and I regret how slow I was coming around. Fortunately, several posters here have shown me the errors in my previous thinking.


48 posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:46 AM PST by GBA (Natural Born American)
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To: ari-freedom
Thanks Rick. You can’t win but you can help Newt lose.

Rick's goal here: If he can cause Newt to lose, then Rick will end up being a heart-beat away from being the guy who loses to Obama in November.

49 posted on 01/27/2012 6:58:10 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: cotton1706
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6770947545_4cd53a8665_m.jpg

50 posted on 01/27/2012 7:05:39 AM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: CAluvdubya

I’ll make what comments I please and Jim Rob tolerates.

Here’s the audio of Rush, which gets down to brass tacks around the thirteenth minute:

http://dailyrushbo.com/could-this-be-the-longest-limbaugh-defense-of-newt-gingrich-ever/

IF I have time later I’ll post quotes from it but I don’t see it convincing you specifically.


51 posted on 01/27/2012 7:07:44 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Excellent idea. I just sent the following email to Santorum's Florida office. Anyone please feel free to copy and paste and send as your own:

Dear Senator Santorum,

Although I find your positions to resonate with my own on a host of key conservative issues, I recognize the futility of your being able to unseat Mitt Romney. The percentages are not there. This is the last chance conservatives have to run one of our own against the Republican elite liberal machine, and the Democrats, and Barack Obama's radical socialist agenda.

However, your continued efforts, as honorable as they are, to persist in the nomination process will only succeed in splintering the Newt Gingrich vote and insure Mitt Romney (a moderate liberal) becomes the Republican nominee. Romney as "Obama lite" will not survive a Democrat onslaught.

I ask that you seriously consider conceding and supporting Newt Gingrich so we can have a decent chance at electing a conservative president in November.

I would expect to continue to see you as an important and crucial voice in a Gingrich administration.

Thank you and God bless you and yours.

52 posted on 01/27/2012 7:08:37 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: Venturer

Thank you!


53 posted on 01/27/2012 7:14:22 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Lady Lucky
I actually listened to Rush yesterday and understood what he was saying, along with many others at FR including JR.

You didn't even look at the thread that two of us directed you to, did you? It breaks down what Rush was saying.

54 posted on 01/27/2012 7:16:58 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

A bit off-topic but not by much. I just went to Mitt Romney’s Florida website. I was going to try to send him an email requesting, in the interests of the continuation of the nation as a Constitutional republic with a viable geographic border, that he step down and support Newt Gingrich. However, the first thing that hits you in the face on the website is a field where you insert your name, address, and your Visa card number—to send his campaign a contribution. The guy is positively shameless.


55 posted on 01/27/2012 7:23:00 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: Lady Lucky
Oh look, here's another thread in which you might not be interested:

"Victory or Death-Michael Reagn, Rush, Sarah Palin, and Nancy Reagan said Newt is carrying Reagan Torch

56 posted on 01/27/2012 7:25:38 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: CAluvdubya

Rush’s theme in those 40 minutes was ostensibly the vehemence of the Republican-on-Republican attacks.

However, what he actually did was convey every negative commentary on Newt without countering ANY of them. He did not defend Newt on the substance of ANY of those attacks. He just said how shocked he was, how very shocked, because he thought he remembered the history and this was all just so...shocking!

He mentioned, among other things, Newt’s remarks about depositions and putting friends in touch with ABC, and tells us these things were not true. He speaks negatively about the space program remarks of Newt. In the 36th minute he says Nancy Reagan would not have said what she did, had she known. He mentions that Newt was for Rockefeller though Newt says he was for Goldwater. He tells us they are obviously clearing the field for Romney — and he doesn’t sound approving of that — but he doesn’t refute ANYTHING.
And he says how he was among those who were worried about just this sort of thing, that the candidate might “implode.”
Newt is not imploding here. His enemies are attacking him and Rush is passing it along as presented by these people.
Only at minute 40 out of 42 he says some blogger claims Newt’s anti-Reaganism comment was edited, and Rush then says his people tell him it was NOT “doctored.” And he concludes his people are right.

These 42 minutes are loaded with unnecessary gas, you can skip the first twelve minutes and miss almost nothing. But bottom line, and I stand by it firmly: Rush only repeats the attacks and claims to be shocked! shocked! and he does not dispute them AT ALL.

Now I’m done because I won’t listen to it again just to post verbatim. You want to be fair, go listen and point out where I am wrong. You can’t.


57 posted on 01/27/2012 7:34:24 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Clearly Rush was playing along with Newt lynching. He spent an hour repeating that nonsense, uncritically, without even bothering to take callers who might have challenged the allegations. I love Rush, but that was pathetic. Newt’s criticisms of Reagan were all trying to push him from the right, which is fine by me, but there was no context at all given in Rush’s filibuster. I don’t recall him ever doing anything quite like that. I don’t usually expect Rush to be disingenuous. If he doens’t like someone or something he usually says so, why play games?


58 posted on 01/27/2012 7:56:50 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Venturer

Great observation! If the Rinos and Dems hate him, you know he’s God’s gift to the people.


59 posted on 01/27/2012 7:57:30 AM PST by alamogal
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To: Lady Lucky
These 42 minutes are loaded with unnecessary gas, you can skip the first twelve minutes and miss almost nothing. But bottom line, and I stand by it firmly: Rush only repeats the attacks and claims to be shocked! shocked! and he does not dispute them AT ALL.

I read the entire transcript of Rush's show last night, and I believe you have described it accurately. Rush did NOT defend Newt on any of the specific attacks, except to say that he didn't remember that time period the same way. But as he repeated each accusation, he didn't knock them down, and then seemed to agree that the tape excerpt was accurate instead of mitigating it with the later comments where Newt defended Reaganism.

I was very disappointed in Rush -- sick to my stomach - and left wondering what he thinks he's doing.
60 posted on 01/27/2012 7:58:24 AM PST by TheCornerOffice
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