Posted on 01/27/2012 2:29:40 AM PST by Scanian
lorida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, considered a powerful Hispanic political player and rising star in his party, has consistently said no to having vice presidential aspirations. But still, the question keeps coming up.
Rubio, the popular Miami-born son of Cuban immigrants, has been seen by some inside Republican circles as a great "get" as a possible No. 2 on a hypothetical presidential ticket, and is already showing his power to influence the process.
Just this week he pushed back on former House Speaker Newt Gingrich after the Republican presidential candidate ran a Spanish language radio ad labeling former Gov. Mitt Romney as "the most anti-immigration candidate." Rubio called the commercial "inaccurate" and "inflammatory" and the Gingrich campaign pulled the ad.
Gingrich press secretary R.C. Hammond said the ad was taken down as part of a scheduled "rotation time for the ads," not as a result of complaints from Rubio.
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Whoops...defending Romney against attack by Gingrich.
CNNObama strikes again.
I read him as wondering if SCOTUS will rule him eligible by some convoluted reasoning.
I read him as wondering if SCOTUS will rule him eligible by some convoluted reasoning.
You have just identified some of the reasons why many of us refuse to either join a political party or do any work for one.
Too many compromises have to be made. Being a purist and inflexible will get you ostracized; being a chameleon would wreck my conscience. But maybe our officeholders are a different breed.
I fear that Obama already set that precedent.
We cannot compound his illegality with illegalities of our own.
That goes for Jindal and, as far as I’m concerned,Romney too (George Romney was born in Mex. and never was naturalized in the US).
I believe we have to hold the line on NBC taking the Vattel position (which was the Founders’ understanding of NBC) or soon we will find ourselves with the Schwartzeneggar’s of the world (or worse) thinking they can run for president.
I would just as soon see Allen West as a VP candidate for either nominated candidate.
No more token candidates. Sorry. We need proven leaders and not more talkers.
We already tried
1) Cain the token black man with no political experience
2) Scott Brown, the token Massachusetts guy who won because of one line about Kennedy’s seat
3) Christie, the token tough talking Italian guy
4) Palin, the token female governor who kinda sorta thought she had the fire in her belly.
Is Rubio a Natural Born Citizen? I thought the VP had to have the qualifications to be President.
Me too.
(Trouble is, we have been working on him down here pretty regular. ButAllen says he likes the House and wants to stay there)
Not by my reckoning, NO!
I am a hard-liner on that. I stick to Vattel’s definition (born inside the country to two CITIZEN parents)
Any honest student of history will admit that Vattel was THE authority on citizenship and international law in the late 1700’s. The Founders looked to his “Law of Nations” for advice because he was the accepted expert o the day.
BTW, the Vattel definition excludes Mitt Romney s well.
“ButAllen says he likes the House and wants to stay there”
Oh. I am sure I read on a previous post, several days ago, that he is available if asked; however he would have to check with his family.
There apparently is precedent for recusal when a judge will be directly affected by the decision. Kagen and Sotomayor could lose their lifetime appointments.
To overturn the precedent of Minor v. Happersett, particularly when it has been cited in so many other decsions, would be a travesty. The Constitution, unless amended, provides for the removal by the Senate of Supreme Court justices. That is what a number of people meant when they observed that we, in 2008, now had a Constitutional crisis.
A story is beginning to unfold involving the cover up for our other ineligible President, Chester Arthur, leading to outright lies in the decision, Wong Kim Ark, from which came the authority to deem children of illegal aliens, born on our soil, citizens. It is a remarkable tale being exposed by the same attorney, Leo Donofrio, who uncovered the fact of Chester Arthur's ineligibility. Donofrio was thus aware of what to look for, and identified some of the lies planted by Arthur to misdirect the curious, not unlike the scrubbing of dozens of Supreme Court decisions by Soros lieutenants, Tim Stanley and Carl Malamud, both at the most frequently accessed source of digitized cases, Justia.com, and at the Cornell Law website. Arthur had good reason to have all his personal papers burned days before he died. He too concealed his birth certificate to titillate the opposition, the public and that part of the press which was not assisting him in his plot.
The point is that Obama’s allies, the Obama media, and the complicit Republicans, who also ran an ineligible candidate, aided by the Democrats who provided a phony Senate Hearing, and a resolution, Senate Resolution 511, which, like all resolutions, has no force of law, to give talking points for the media. Even those who sound knowledgeable and motivated by conservative principles like radio pundit Roger Hedgecock, repeat as fact that the Senate determined that McCain was eligible. No Senate had the authority to do that, and besides, they didn't. What they did do, every US Senator, including Barack Obama, was sign their agreement that a natural born citizen must have been born to two parents who were citizens when the child was born. Pat Leahy confirmed Michael Chertoff’s testimony, and Obama’s Harvard adviser who was also on his campaign committee, Larry Tribe, wrote a letter making the same point, and lying about the 1790 Naturalization Act, which was completely repealed in 1795, and replaced with a Naturalization law that never mentions natural born citizens.
Obama and his campaign committee chairwoman Clare McCaskill, also attempted to pass a bill, SB2678, in February of 2008, written to make the foreign born children of military citizen, McCain, eligible to the presidency. They knew, and every Senator knew that Obama was not born to two citizen parents, while using that argument to claim that McCain was eligible. Every US Senator in 2008 knew that Obama was born to a British Kenyan father. Every Senator except John McCain signed the resolution agreeing that a natural born citizen must have had citizen parents. Our government is filled with liars and crooks, and we may still have enough remaining of a Constitution, the 1st Amendment, to enable us to inform citizens who believe the media and legislators. Then we must remove all Senators who failed to honor their oaths to honor, defend and protect the Constituion.
A decision overruling Minor v. Happersett, would acknowledge that Happersett was prevailing during Obama’s first term, and affirming that he was not eligible! The Supreme Court, certainly John Roberts, has shown its ability to weasel out of difficult decisions, as Judge Thomas implied in 2009. They will need to be cornered before taking on the sitting executive, whether or not he is a Consitutional president. Like most men and women, and much as some claim higher ideals. their most likely tactic will be to protect their careers, because this crisis involves just the responsibilities stipulated by the Constitution. Not addressing interpretation of the Constituion is grounds for impeachment of a justice. Justice Marshall said they, the court, not only have jurisdiction, they must take such a case. The question will probably be, when?
Now that Georgia is forcing airing of the fact that there is precedent, and that both parties are complicit, Rubio has lost his chance to be a hero by standing up for the Constitution. It is probably not an accident the the only legislator to attempt to vet Obama was run out of Congress by Democrats on phony ethics charges as soon as he, Nathan Deal, wrote an open letter to the White House in 2009 after he askedm for assurance that Obama was eligible. He is now Georgia's governor. Coincidence?
I know about D’Onofrio, I know about Apuzzo, and I also know that those cases you cite might or might not be cited by SCOTUS which is extremely capricious and unpredictable.
Who ever thought they would regard McCain-Feingold as constitutional?
Romneybot veeps don’t excite me.
Pal, if you dislike Rubio, that’s your business.
But when has he ever said he supported Romney?
Pal, maybe you should have been paying attention to the beat down of Newt that he was doing this week, and his support for Mitt as he labeled him a conservative.
Rubio has thrown his weight into preventing Romney from losing in Florida.
Rubio served Romney very well in the debate last night.
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