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Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
The American Dream ^ | 1-26-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/26/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by blam

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To: Grunthor

Do you live in WA? Do you realize that we no longer have a representative government, that we are being governed by boards and commissions full of NGOs? Do you realize that these unelected boards are flying helicopters over rural properties to inspect and photograph activity on these farms and large pieces of property?

It is full out war between rural property owners and the coalition of NGOs, politicians and crony capitalist partners, all lined up against the rural citizens.


161 posted on 01/27/2012 12:58:36 PM PST by Eva
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To: Mad Dawgg

Glenn Beck has a show already.

Independence USA premiered two weeks ago. So far they have camped in the woods, in a tent without taking any food. Dad and son took out a deer with a bow. Mom and sis got a wild turkey with a shotgun. This week, Dad started a “summer kitchen” then fed the workers the deer and turkey while lighting the night with batteries powered by their wood powered truck.

It’s been pretty okay but really much of their stuff is so “on the grid” it’s silly. The house has enough electric woodworking equipment that he could have his own PBS woodcraft show, they were cutting trees with the help of a cherry picker and all the nails went into the “summer kitchen” with electric nailguns.


162 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:06 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: little jeremiah

Now the ugly reality.

Most people cannot and will not move to middle of nowhere as their are no jobs, and making a 30 mile round trip to a store, gas etc, is not going to happen. Fact is if SHTF, no one will be able to receive their retirement checks or anything else...When ya can’t even pay your property taxes, buy medications, feed your animals, or have electricity to pump water...Well... you get the picture. At that point, it won’t matter where ya live.


163 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:26 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I would not live near a city for any money in the world. I’d rather have little money, no debt, and no groups of ferals for hundreds of miles.

That’s why I live where I live!


164 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: netmilsmom

Of course - I have land, I need folks. You are welcome. I will build you a commode.


165 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:54 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

If you read the blog by the guy who survived for a year in Yugoslavia, he said liquor is one of the most valuable trading items. Not only for drinking but for sterilizing.


166 posted on 01/27/2012 1:01:29 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: patton

You do rock!


167 posted on 01/27/2012 1:03:17 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Rocket scientist by trade, mathematician by training, teacher by vocation ... moonshiner by genetics.

Sugar, corn, and water are easy to find - that is why we had the whiskey rebellion.


168 posted on 01/27/2012 1:04:27 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: little jeremiah

No, you sound very paranoid for someone living in the middle of nowhere. Best of luck to ya.

And really, think about heading to the Amazon or Alaska. I hear it really isolated and rural in those places. You should be safe there.


169 posted on 01/27/2012 1:05:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: patton

LOL. Lord, I do love FR :)

May God bless and keep you FRiend.
Tatt


170 posted on 01/27/2012 1:05:55 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: dragnet2

I am not most people. What most people do is most peoples’ business. Each individual makes their choices. I strongly disagree that “it won’t matter where you live”. Where you live and how you live are the most important factors in surviving Hard Times.

Lessening or eliminating dependence on checks arriving in the mail is vital.

One example - you mentioned electricity to pump water. I have a well, got a solar well pump not long ago, have 1 solar panel but need one more, already have about 3000 gallons of holding tanks for water, which I already use, I pump water from the well now and then as needed.

So I am much better situated than anyone who uses their electric run well pump to fill a 30 or 60 gallon pressure tank many times a day. What to speak of people who depend on municipal water.

I don’t understand why you are saying nothing anyone does makes any difference. Doesn’t make sense!


171 posted on 01/27/2012 1:08:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: netmilsmom

Thank you, Ma’am.

;)


172 posted on 01/27/2012 1:09:19 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: dragnet2

Oh, I’m paranoid. I see. You think the future is going to be the same as the past.

Okay.


173 posted on 01/27/2012 1:10:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: relictele
East German style checkpoints and speed traps.

uh...you mean revenue traps.

174 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:15 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for the tip.

(I like to tinkle inside if I can, though)


175 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:23 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: thesearethetimes...

May God Bless and keep you, and you are welcome, too.

I need folks.

I have never understood governments that don’t understand that folks are their wealth.

For instance, in my little cabin in the woods, I need a couple of hundred freepers to defend it.

So let’s get to work.
We can expand the cabin as needed.

I think they call that a “castle”


176 posted on 01/27/2012 1:16:47 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Wild Berry

There’s a whole theory that the rules of grammar that lead to odd constructions like that were perpetrated by the British upper class as a way to distinguish themselves from the masses and instantly identify impostors.


177 posted on 01/27/2012 1:21:51 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh, that thing. I knew I left someone unanswered...
Five-gallon poo-bucket. Poop inside, toss mulch on top.

Since we have no plumbing ...


178 posted on 01/27/2012 1:24:37 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: netmilsmom; patton

Oh, a composting toilet setup can totally be inside! We made a construction with a toilet seat on top and we slid buckets underneath it. Had a bucket of mulchy stuff next to it with a trowel. Do business, toss mulchy stuff, put lid on bucket, wash hands. voila. When bucket was full, slide out, slide new one in, carry full bucket outside with lid on but not super tight. When several full buckets accumulated, we’d upend them on the special compost pile just for them, or they could be dumped one at a time; letting them accumulate made it so many were already partially composted.

Putting mulchy stuff at the bottom of the toilet bucket before using it is good, or a piece or two of newspaper, facilitates dumping.

Tinkling is better done in a seperate vessel, men can easily go outdoors and for the ladies, regulation chamber pots with lids are still sold.

:-)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Enamel-Porcelin-Chamber-Pot-w-Lid-Some-Men-Smile-Evening-/140689964392?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item20c1c67d68

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Red-White-Enamelware-Chamber-Pot-w-Fluted-Sides-Wood-Handle-Set-2-/260939828733?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item3cc139cdfd

I like the second one.


179 posted on 01/27/2012 1:32:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: netmilsmom

Oh, here’s another nice one. Ebay also has porcelain ones but a breakable chamber pot?@?!?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/metal-chambers-pot-closet-lid-old-handle-enamel-pail-kentucky-home-/300653914063?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item46005ea7cf


180 posted on 01/27/2012 1:33:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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