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To: RKBA Democrat
Sarah Palin, Jesus Christ and Ronald reagan decided not to run this year.

Rick Santorum (regrettably) has never gotten traction and is simply dividing the vote of the Republican Wing of the Republican Party and hindering the all-important demolition of the Mittwit.

PaleoPaulie is the unquestioned leader of the George McGovern wing of the GOP (all three members of it) and relies on left-wing college students, dope-smokers, abortion lovers and pervert marriage wannabes as his base. Did you note that he was the only "GOP" vote recently to retain an accelerated schedule for taxing gun dealers and gun makers. Only five Demonrats voted with the Galveston space alien on that vote including his pal Dennis Cuckoocinich and Jerry "Pizza the Hut" Nadler. Paul is an absolute crackpot.

We apparently agree on destroying the Mittwit. If I am wrong, view the video at #231.

That leaves Newt Gingrich who is certainly imperfect but most resembles Teddy Roosevelt's famous man in the arena, covered with blood and mud but fighting on nonetheless. There aren't going to be any perfect candidates arriving at the last moment to lead us to the political promised land. Newt is it. The rest did not run or withdrew. It's Newt or Obozo.

If, God forbid, Mittwit buys, bullies and bribes his establishmentarian way to the nomination, I won't vote for him and neither will enough social conservatives to guarantee that he loses. If this country is going to be destroyed, that destruction must be perpetrated by Demonrats who admit publicly that they are Demonrats.

The time for rebellion is now!

254 posted on 01/26/2012 12:22:30 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: BlackElk

Black Elk! I’m honored that you would reply to one of my screeds. Let’s go over your points one by one.

“Sarah Palin, Jesus Christ and Ronald reagan decided not to run this year.”

In my view, this election ended for conservatives when SP decided not to run. At this point we’re just making (bad)tradeoffs. I’ll go further and say that I’m more interested in putting down my markers for 2016 at this point than arguing over what choices remain in the 2012 disaster. See tagline.

“Rick Santorum (regrettably) has never gotten traction and is simply dividing the vote of the Republican Wing of the Republican Party and hindering the all-important demolition of the Mittwit.”

I agree that Santorum is a good candidate philosophically, albeit a somewhat weak candidate from an electoral perspective. To wit, losing his own Senate seat. His SoCon credentials are impeccable. Economic, notso hotso. Your logic as to him dividing the Republican Wing of the GOP cuts the other way as well; if Newt were to drop out, Santorum would probably emerge as the anti-mitt candidate.

“PaleoPaulie is the unquestioned leader of the George McGovern wing of the GOP (all three members of it) and relies on left-wing college students, dope-smokers, abortion lovers and pervert marriage wannabes as his base. Did you note that he was the only “GOP” vote recently to retain an accelerated schedule for taxing gun dealers and gun makers. Only five Demonrats voted with the Galveston space alien on that vote including his pal Dennis Cuckoocinich and Jerry “Pizza the Hut” Nadler. Paul is an absolute crackpot.”

This the part of your post that I find the most interesting. Particularly given that both you and I have a history of activism within the LP, and both of us eventually left. As you probably realize, I am a RP supporter, where you obviously are not.

I think the important thing with RP is not his own candidacy, which will not be successful. RP is not quite as crazy as you would suggest; he has to realize that he won’t win the Presidency. And he has as much as said so. Yet he will continue to plug away. Which points to another agenda. I think part of it is to bring small “L” libertarians into the GOP. But bigger picture, I think he is trying to change the philosophical perspective of the GOP. And in my view, that *has* to happen if the GOP is going to continue to be relevant. RP may or may not end up being successful, but I would certainly prefer more of his influence over the GOP’s philosophy than that of say Megan McCain or mitt romney.

“That leaves Newt Gingrich who is certainly imperfect but most resembles Teddy Roosevelt’s famous man in the arena, covered with blood and mud but fighting on nonetheless.
There aren’t going to be any perfect candidates arriving at the last moment to lead us to the political promised land. Newt is it. The rest did not run or withdrew. It’s Newt or Obozo.”

Calling Newt imperfect is the understatement of the week. He is a poor candidate that can appeal to about 30% of the population. What about the other 70%? Outside of that, this is not a winning candidacy in my view. While much hay has been made of his remarkable debating skills, what else does he bring to the table? A willingness to fight? That’s nice. The LSM and barky will, successfully I might add, characterize him as an extremist. He has little demonstrated ability to reach out to those who do not already support him. If the choice does become Newt vs barky, then plan on four more years of barky. While I will vote for Newt if he is nominated, that’s gonna be about it. If it’s mitt, I’ll stay home or vote 3rd party.

“If, God forbid, Mittwit buys, bullies and bribes his establishmentarian way to the nomination, I won’t vote for him and neither will enough social conservatives to guarantee that he loses.”

Much as I hate it, that might end up being the best case scenario. Have you considered what will happen to conservatives within the GOP if Newt is the candidate and then loses?


258 posted on 01/26/2012 1:48:08 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Rand Paul for President 2016 (FR still rocks!!))
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