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To: Biblebelter

There is nothing mean spirited about facts. Tom Delay was excellent. Newt and Livingston’s resignations assured Clinton would not be rightfully convicted by the senate. Their resignations directly resulted from their philandering. This is history, not opinion.


77 posted on 01/25/2012 5:14:48 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Clinton wasn’t convicted because there were too many wussy boys in the Senate, not because of Newt. The Senate did not do their job.


79 posted on 01/25/2012 5:21:25 PM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: jwalsh07
Newt and Livingston’s resignations assured Clinton would not be rightfully convicted by the senate.

Could you source that ridiculous assertion? In post 35 of this thread, I source Henry Hyde. The most courageous members of the House were on the Impeachment Committee led by Hyde. I do not remember anyone on the committee blaming their failure to convict on Gingrich or Livingston. They always blamed Gramm who was the Republican in charge of jointly negotiating the rules with Senate Democrats.

The impeachment trial became a show trial not because of Gingrich or Livingston but because Hyde and his committee had their hands tied behing their back by the Senate rules. To blame Gingrich and Livingston for the failure to impeach reflects an ignorance of the impeachment process as well as revisionary history based on personal scapegoating. Blaming Newt for the Senate's failure to convict is quite simply an indefensible assertion.

83 posted on 01/25/2012 5:33:15 PM PST by Biblebelter
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