Posted on 01/25/2012 11:58:12 AM PST by Kaslin
Well, I did learn to count, which is more than I can say for your "three months" comment. What happened? Run out of fingers or something?
I also learned to make more than ipse dixit "is not" arguments. Daniels ended public employee unions out on the very first day he took office. Indiana has the lowest number of public employees per capita in the entire country. He has privatized some state operations, moved to a medical savings account program for state employees to give more choice and to save the State money, and last year, reformed education to give more school choice. Read about that if you'd like to:
http://www.studentsfirst.org/blog/entry/ed-reform-in-indiana/#
Oh, and this year, he's pushing to make Indiana the first Great Lakes state to adopt Right to Work, doing something no other Republican Governor in any of those states has done. What non-conservative does those kind of things?
btw, regarding the date joined, there was a problem with my password for my original ID that JR couldn't fix. My old screename was XJarhead, and I joined back in November 2000. So congratulations -- you've got me by 9 months or so. I bow to your superiority for belonging to a message board for longer than me.
Great points. The speech was horrible! I took it further on another thread:
“The status of ‘loyal opposition’ imposes on those out of power some serious responsibilities: to show respect for the Presidency and its occupant,
DON’T CALL HIM A SOCIALIST YOU TEA PARTY EXTREMIST!
to express agreement where it exists.
OBAMA ISN’T ALL BAD
Republicans tonight salute our President
SECOND SENTENCE OF THE SO CALLED REBUTTAL AND HERE I AM SALUTING OBAMA!
I personally would add to that list admiration for the strong family commitment that he and the First Lady have displayed to a nation sorely needing such examples.
NICE SHOT AT NEWT FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT
The President did not cause the economic and fiscal crises that continue in America tonight.
HE WAS IN THE MAJORITY IN THE SENATE AT THE TIME, AND HIS ALLIES IN THE HOUSE HAD JUST TAKEN OVER WHEN THE SHIITE HIT THE FAN. SHIITE CAUSED BY COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS AND LIBERALS FORCING BANKS TO MAKE LOANS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT PAY THEM BACK
nearly half of all persons under 30, did not go to work today.
CONSIDERING 1/2 OF ALL PEOPLE UNDER 30 ARE BETWEEN 1-15 YEARS OLD.....
“In three short years, an unprecedented explosion of spending, with borrowed money, has added trillions to an already unaffordable national debt.
NO MENTION OF HOW THE EXPLOSION STARTED IN JAN 2007 WHEN THE DEMOCRATS TOOK BACK CONGRESS
“As Republicans our first concern is for those waiting tonight to begin or resume the climb up life’s ladder. We do not accept that ours will ever be a nation of haves and have nots; we must always be a nation of haves and soon to haves.
AS REPUBLICANS, OUR FIRST CONCERN IS TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE-OBAMA IS GUTTING OUR MILITARY.
“In our economic stagnation and indebtedness, we are only a short distance behind Greece, Spain, and other European countries now facing economic catastrophe.
AND OTHER “SOCIALIST” COUNTRIES
But ours is a fortunate land. Because the world uses our dollar for trade...
INDIA IS NOW PAYING FOR OIL WITH GOLD AND OTHER NATIONS ARE ABOUT TO AS WELL. QE2 IS ABOUT TO COME HOME TO ROOST.
“So 2012 is a year of true opportunity, maybe our last, to restore an America of hope and upward mobility, and greater equality.
YES, EQUALITY! THATS WHAT A CONSERVATIVES NEED TO WORRY ABOUT /S
The challenges aren’t matters of ideology, or party preference;
BS
“The routes back to an America of
“That means a dramatically simpler tax system of fewer loopholes and lower rates.
WE”RE COMING FOR THAT HOME MORTGAGE DEDUCTION BARABARA!
“There is a second item on our national must-do list: we must unite to save the safety net.
#1 EQUALITY
#2 SAFETY NET
IS THIS THE GOP PLATFORM OF THE DNC’s?
Medicare and Social Security have served us well
AS HAS THE POST OFFICE, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND INNER CITY MAYORS
“Decades ago, for instance, we could afford to send millionaires pension checks and pay medical bills for even the wealthiest among us. Now, we can’t, so the dollars we have should be devoted to those who need them most.
WE LIED. THAT MONEY WE TOLD YOU YEARS AGO THAT WAS GOING TO YOUR GOVERNMENT RETIREMENT ACCOUNT WAS REALLY JUST AN ADDITIONAL TAX SO WE CAN GIVE YOUR MONEY TO OTHERS
stop sending the wealthy benefits they do not need, and stop providing them so many tax preferences that distort our economy and do little or nothing to foster growth.
IS THIS THE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE OR THE PRESIDENTS SPEECH?
“It’s not fair and it’s not true for the President to attack Republicans in Congress as obstacles on these questions. They and they alone have passed bills to reduce borrowing, reform entitlements, and encourage new job creation, only to be shot down time and time again by the President and his Democratic Senate allies.
NO MENTION, AGAIN, OF THE DEMOCRAT CAPTURE OF THE HOUSE IN THE 2006 ELECTIONS. “FANNY AND FREDDY ARE NOT IN TROUBLE!”-BARNEY FRANK
“This year, it falls to Republicans to level with our fellow citizens about this reality: if we fail to act to grow the private sector and save the safety net, nothing else will matter much.
SAVE THE SAFETY NET! CHARGE!
“No feature of the Obama Presidency has been sadder than its constant efforts to divide us, to curry favor with some Americans by castigating others.
LIKE DANIELS IS DOING WITH THE WEALTHY ABOVE
As in previous moments of national danger, we Americans are all in the same boat. If we drift, quarreling and paralyzed, over a Niagara of debt, we will all suffer, regardless of income, race, gender, or other category.
I’D LIKE TO SAY SEXUAL PREFERENCE BUT THIS CODE WORD WILL DO
If we fail to shift to a pro-jobs, pro-growth economic policy, there will never be enough public revenue to pay for our safety net, national security, or whatever size government we decide to have.
THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT HAS DECLARED SAVING THE SAFETY NET (FEDERAL FREE MONEY PROGRAMS) IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN NATIONAL SECURITY. HOPEFULLY THIS IDIOT WILL BE KEPT OFF THE SUPER COMMITTEE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT SHOULD BE CUT.
We will speak the language of unity.
SHUT UP YOU TEA PARTY EXTREMISTS!
Let us rebuild our finances, and the safety net, and reopen the door to the stairway upward; any other disagreements we may have can wait.
LET THE ILLEGALS INVADE, SCREW NATIONAL SECURITY, SCREW THE UNBORN, LET THE HOMOSEXUALS MARRY....BUT SAVE THE FREE MONEY PROGRAMS!
“In word and deed, the President and his allies tell us that we just cannot handle ourselves in this complex, perilous world without their benevolent protection. Left to ourselves, we might pick the wrong health insurance, the wrong mortgage, the wrong school for our kids; why, unless they stop us, we might pick the wrong light bulb!
JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICANS WHO CAVED ON THAT BILL IN EXCHANGE FOR A PROMISE TO TEMPORARILY NOT ENFORCE THE NEW LIGHT BULB BAN, DANIELS SEEMS TO THINK THIS LITTLE BONE WILL WIN HIM POINTS. “OH, HE IS SUCH A CONSERVATIVE! IM SO GLAD THE GOP WILL STAND UP FOR MY LIGHT BULB CHOICES!”
“A second view, which I admit some Republicans also seem to hold, is that we Americans are no longer up to the job of self-government.
I ADMIT, AGAIN, THAT WE SUCK
We can’t do the simple math that proves the unaffordability of today’s safety net programs
BUT SAVING THEM IS MY #1 PRIORITY!
We will allow ourselves to be pitted one against the other, blaming our neighbor for troubles worldwide trends or our own government has caused.
WE ARE SO WRONG TO BLAME THE LEFT
“2012 must be the year we prove the doubters wrong. The year we strike out boldly not merely to avert national bankruptcy but to say to a new generation that America is still the world’s premier land of opportunity.
OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND USE OUR “FREE MONEY” SAFETY NET THAT IS MY #1 PRIORITY
Republicans will speak for those who believe in the dignity and capacity of the individual citizen
BUT 2 DAYS AFTER THE 150,000+ MARCH FOR LIFE IN DC I WON’T EVEN USE A CODE WORD FOR THE UNBORN (LIKE I DID FOR HOMOSEXUALS)
to lay before them a specific, credible program of change big enough to meet the emergency we are facing.
THE EMERGENCY OF SAVING THE FREE MONEY SAFETY NET
“We will advance our positive suggestions with confidence,
CODE FOR: SHUT UP TEA PARTY
There is nothing wrong with the state of our Union that the American people, addressed as free-born...
IF TAX PAYER FUNDED PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOESN’T KILL THEM FIRST
Newt’s rhetoric is entertaining and due, however you need more then rhetoric to be a President. My fear with Newt are founded in his past
1) Thin skin which causes him to get defensive or suck up to press/libs
2) He lost the House Republicans support after a couple years and don’t say it was the RINO’s there were plenty of true conservative Reps that said enough
3) His class warfare rhetoric on Romney is straight from Obama and the Dems!
4) FDR is one of his favorite Presidents and at times his stands sound more big government.
I would still vote for Newt but it wouldn’t be because he is the poster child of a great candidate!. I would much rather take somebody who walks the walk (and I am talking personal character as well, face it Newt is very flawed there) then someone who can give loud rhetoric. Every one forgets, Reagan challenged the press and his opponents, but he didn’t do it snarling the way Newt does.
Good assessment, his speech was disgusting.
Why are we wasting a thread on a man who seems to be a very good governor but who is not running for president.
And who will not be running for president.
We have two choices now: Santorum or Gingrich.
You three are correct when you state Daniels is a Conservative. BUT, not all his decisions are such, and his ability to carry the Conservative argument FORCEFULLY nation-wide is problematic.
Quote of Gov.Mitch Daniels: ““At some stage I just think that if you’re interested in results you should just try to be careful to use words that don’t drive anybody away and if possible just take a chance to be more civil, more likeable than the other guy,..”
Mitch Daniels: Obama not a socialist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2782833/posts
“...asked...if he thought Obama had pursued socialist policies, Daniels laughed wryly and simply said, “No.”
Note: when Obama attended Occidental College, he was described by fellow students as a “Marxist-Leninist”.
Indiana Supreme Court: citizens have no right to resist unlawful police entry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2720545/posts
“In a move that flies not only in the face of the U.S. Constitution but defies common law dating back to the Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court has ruled that residents of the Hoosier state have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David, writing for the majority, expressed the view that:
“...a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence. We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”
Note: Mitch Daniels appointed this Judge to Indiana’s Supreme Court.
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Mitch Daniels is no more or less Conservative or electable than Gingrich or Santorum, plus he is late to the primary race and forcing him onto voters at this late date is frankly stupid, as it would be vigorously opposed by those of us Tea Party enthusiasts.
For forty years the Democrats held power. The Republicans occasionally were thrown a bone, given cover and some pork to keep their constituents quiet. Meanwhile the congress was enriching themselves at the expense of the nation. The centralized government kept growing and growing…
In 1980 Ronald Reagan is elected President. Newt Gingrich, elected in 1978, joined with others to ally with President Reagan and build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority - the Reagan Revolution - which directly led to the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy
Gingrich becomes Speaker of the House and the Democrats and Republicans panicked! Budget cuts, less pork. For the first time in a very long time the Republicans actually had to govern and take responsibility. The Dems were outnumbered - it should have been easy and, after all, it is what the voters wanted congress to do.
The 1998 budget was scheduled for a $1 Billion cut and congress saw the gravy train leaving the station. No more getting rich at the public’s expense.
So it became “get rid of Newt Gingrich” even to the extent of manufacturing lies about him. He was exonerated of ALL those phony ethics charges, but the media continues to smear him year after year after year.
And now, older and wiser, he is back. And the corrupt in Washington, D.C., are AGAIN trying to save the status quo.
The question is, what are YOU going to do?
So far you’re repeating all the lies the media and Congressional fat cats spout about Newt. They’re pooping in their silk panties at the thought of Gingrich controlling the executive branch.
I suspect you can do better.
Blah blah blah
I totally agree. I like your name, my son is a Bruce Campbell fan.
Bump
And you are an idiot who doesn’t know what an idiot is, and I don’t mean the Republican In Name Only part
Judicial appointments in Indiana are not similar to those at the federal; the governor must pick from a list of three candidates selected by the state judicial nominating committee and that committee is always populated by a bunch of leftist do-gooders.
That is very true, the only one that arrogant, lazy,lying pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave can put the blame on is himself and his fellow rats
It really pi$$es me of when posters use the term RINO with everyone they disagree with and without really knowing what a real RINO does. A RINO is one who votes mostly with the rats
I had my TV turned off during zero’s SOTU address. When I turned it back on, the Fox News commentators were on and shortly afterward Mitch Daniels came on with the rebuttal. I had been looking forward to hear Herman Cain’s reply in behalf of the Tea Party to 0-bama’s campaign speech, but it never came up. Someone posted a link to Fox News streaming the speech, but it only played for a few minutes and then suddenly stopped
The poster probably also believes Nancy Pelosi
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Apparently his wife left him years ago and married some dentist in California and seven years later she divorced the dentist and remarried Daniels. To the extent that anyone views this as a scandal, it is no more compelling than is Daniels as a speaker. Hehas apparently been a good governor of Indiana but would be in WAAAAAY over his head as a POTUS candidate and especially since he is apparently warming up to be the establishment candidate when Romney proves not able to be nominated. Personally, I think he has one actual permanent scandal: his speech at CPAC last year in which he called for a “truce on social issues.” That is not how he governed Indiana but it looked like he was sucking up to the soulless money-obsessive elite big shots. He has negative charisma as well.
I couldn’t disagree more. It’s gotten to the point if anyone says anything against Newt on here they are idiots, or worse, they think everyone is out to get Newt at every corner. Have you every looked at what Daniels has accomplished in Indiana, or don’t accomplishments mean anything, it’s what you say in a speech!
Thank you. I knew that there was something with the wife, just couldn’t remember what. BUT I do remember the uproar that his “truce on social issues” call created.
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