[Kenny Bunk]

“If Obama would have the person who supposedly picked up the long-forms from the HDOH testify as a witness, present a paper certified copy of a long-form, and vouch for its chain of custody, would either Taitz or Hatfield have the opportunity to give reasons why it it not acceptable as prima facie evidence?”

We always wind up back at "Square 1." What the HIDOH gave the Perkins Coie Attorney was NOT a certified copy of an original Birth Certificate. It was an ABSTRACT of "data on file" at the HIDOH.

Obviously what happened then is that the WH tried to "dress it up" by cutting it and pasting into a document that looked more like a Birth Certificate. Kind of a DIY Birth Certificate.

Had a "Certified Copy of a Birth Certificate" been available, it could have been over-nighted to the WH for $35. The difference between a certified copy and an abstract of data on file? Ask a real estate broker, a DMV Title Clerk, a bank loan officer, a lawyer.

Sheriff Joe gets it. The MSM doesn't want to. The oddest thing? All of the BC's fake or not, identify the father as a non-citizen.

[Seizethecarp]

“All of the BC’s fake or not, identify the father as a non-citizen.”

Yes, and as of today his father's identity and citizenship are “facts not in evidence” (I object!)

Actually, I object to the fact that these ARE STILL facts not in evidence...probably by design as part of the multi-layered legal defense of his ineligibility by both blood and soil!