Posted on 01/22/2012 4:48:02 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
When Barack Obama joined Silicon Valley’s top luminaries for dinner in California last February, each guest was asked to come with a question for the president.
But as Steven P. Jobs of Apple spoke, President Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: what would it take to make iPhones in the United States?
Mr. Jobs’s reply was unambiguous. “Those jobs aren’t coming back,” he said, according to another dinner guest.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
There are times when I think Obama is some sort of evil genius who knows exactly what he is doing to try and destroy this nation.
And then I read a statement like this that makes Joe Biden look like Aristotle by comparison. Good grief. Has there ever been a dumber question coming from a president?
OMG. Steve Job's "reality distortion field" meets Obamas.
Did Steve Jobs faint?
Did he say, "Sorry, union labor can't compete?"
Doubt that very much.
I’m not logging in to NYT...
Every entertainer knows that the mental age of a crowd is somewhere in the range of the pubescent. It was a moment scripted for the masses.
Why post an article I can’t access .....?
I must sign in to the NYT to read the article
me either
You don’t have to. Just copy the title of the article and paste it into Google. The link will come up, click it and the article will be there for the reading.
Sure, electronics would be real competative with union labor rates, massive oppressive regulations, the highest and the corporate tax rate in the free world. Everyone would want a $5,000 IPhone.
It is not slave labor. It becomes that only because people see the wages of workers over seas and compare it to cost of living in the US, cost of living are not comparable.
Sorry, I do not want to $5,000 for my iPhone.
I didn't have to log into the NYT in order to read the article. I have to excerpt here on FR from the Times, but it is a good long article.
Cut and paste the title into google and it comes up without having to login. Its what I always do.
The Costco/Omega decision is why iPhones or any Apple product will never be made in the US again. This is also how Apple killed the clone makers who'd purchase legal Apple roms and Apple software and use their own hardware - once Apple moved production fully overseas, they no longer were subject to the first purchase doctrine.
And get ready for it to start happening with DVDs, CDs and other media products (including books...) Right now, you are permitted to buy a DVD and then resell it as you please. Any limitations end with the first purchase. That will end soon enough. Especially with the lovely SCOTUS decision which enforces foreign copyright on works that are legally public domain in the US.
Then again, the idiot SCOTUS decision that defines ‘for a limited time’ as meaning whatever Congress desires, including 170 years or more, and retroactive copyright extensions, the whole mess is an utter disaster and completely unconstitutional.
Yes it is when workers are essentially made to live at the plant to be available to work 24 hours a day. Read the story again and see.
>> once Apple moved production fully overseas, they no longer were subject to the first purchase doctrine. &etc
Interesting insight. Thanks.
A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.
That's not slave labor. they got a biscuit and a cup of tea for gosh sakes.
That was the wrong question to ask, “How can we get Apple to produce their products in the States.”
The right question is, “How do we create the right conditions, so that companies want to create jobs in the States.”
You might lose Apple, even with the best circumstances, but you might gain 5,000 other companies and start-ups as a consequence of having the best environment to helping companies succeed.
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