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BREAKING NEWS: Family says former Penn State coach Joe Paterno has died — AP
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Posted on 01/22/2012 7:34:30 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: Ronald_Magnus

The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.
William Shakespeare


61 posted on 01/22/2012 9:01:58 AM PST by myrabach
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To: NEPA

Thank you for that post—well said


62 posted on 01/22/2012 9:02:07 AM PST by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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To: kabar

Joe Paterno may have died of lung cancer, but in reality, he died of a broken heart.

I agree, it is so very sad.


63 posted on 01/22/2012 9:04:00 AM PST by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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To: NEPA
If Paterno wanted something done in '98, 2002 about Sandusky or at any time about ANYTHING in State College it would be done; OR, if he DIDN'T want it done, it wouldn't. Ignore those facts and you enter the Twilight Zone...

And, RIP JoePa.

64 posted on 01/22/2012 9:04:10 AM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: mom4kittys

“Joe Paterno may have died of lung cancer, but in reality, he died of a broken heart.

I agree, it is so very sad.”

I think if none of the Sandusky stuff had happened...Joe would have been coaching the 2012 season. Football kept him going day to day...


65 posted on 01/22/2012 9:08:27 AM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: Perdogg

Sad news. This is going to go down as one of the strangest stories I’ve ever seen. I suspect it will be decades (if ever) before all of the facts surrounding Paterno’s tenure at Penn State are known.


66 posted on 01/22/2012 9:10:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: mom4kittys
For the life of me I can’t understand why people don’t understand this.

Yeah, and I never heard about anyone in M.Jackson's inner circle reporting anything they had to have witnessed at Neverland. People even stood outside MJ's trial and released white doves for every not guilty charge. Where was the outrage when he admitted on TV that he slept with little boys? Didn't see it. Didn't exist. We were all supposed to assume that Michael's actions were totally innocent. But BTW, Joe Paterno is accused of complicity as if he committed the molestations himself.

67 posted on 01/22/2012 9:17:46 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Perdogg
Here we go again.

This is starting to remind me of the coverage of the Gabby Giffords shooting.

First she was dead, then she was alive, then she was dead, then she was feeling much better, then she was dead, then she wasn't even at the shopping center, then she was dead, then she....

No wonder nobody trusts Big News.

68 posted on 01/22/2012 9:18:18 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

This is coming from his family so he’s dead. Last night a local Penn State student newspaper reported his death and bigger media repeated it.


69 posted on 01/22/2012 9:21:02 AM PST by Borges
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To: LoveUSA

JoePa was not a witness


70 posted on 01/22/2012 9:22:01 AM PST by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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To: LoveUSA

He knew about it, he didn’t do anything about it. Don’t try to justify Paterno’s inaction because you don’t think Michael Jackson got hit hard enough.

He was just a football coach.


71 posted on 01/22/2012 9:22:42 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
Good post, but I cannot imagine how people can talk about how great Paterno is. There are 57 counts against Sandusky. You cannot have a child rapist around that long and not know something is wrong.

I truly feel that Paterno and everyone else involved chose football, money and legacy over the well being of children.

72 posted on 01/22/2012 9:23:43 AM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They made a political statement with another Penn State Coach, Rene Portland. They fired her because she would not allow gays on her team.


73 posted on 01/22/2012 9:25:03 AM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: Perdogg

Did CBS SPorts Confirm his death yet??


74 posted on 01/22/2012 9:25:10 AM PST by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I can only assume Mr. Paterno was quite wealthy, and able to hire a private detective to get real evidence against the creep. In his position as a very successful head coach, he was surely used to being on top of details that might affect his team, disciplining bad behaving players, etc. This matter was so potentially destructive, he needed to take charge personally, and solve it.

With evidence against the creep, Paterno could have told him privately, “You’ve got two choices: turn yourself in, or do yourself in. And if you choose the latter, may I suggest you make it look like an accident.”


75 posted on 01/22/2012 9:27:51 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Pharmboy
If Paterno wanted something done in '98, 2002 about Sandusky or at any time about ANYTHING in State College it would be done; OR, if he DIDN'T want it done, it wouldn't. Ignore those facts and you enter the Twilight Zone...

The problem is that you don't have all the facts. We do know that he reported the incident to the university officials, his bosses. This must have been a difficult decision given Paterno's relationship with Sandusky and his family for over 50 years. Sandusky played for Paterno at Penn State, starting at defensive end from 1963 to 1965. And he worked for Paterno from 1969-99.

Paterno has admitted he could have done more, but this sanctimonious crap about what he could have done in this instance is 20-20 hindsight. He DID report the incident and relied on the university to follow through.

The universtity officials were fired and so was Paterno. But the good Paterno did in his life far outweigh this lapse in judgment and perhaps, misplaced loyalty or lack of courage to go after someone you have been so close to over half a century. I blame Sandusky for his actions, not Paterno for not pursuing it more vigorously.

76 posted on 01/22/2012 9:30:20 AM PST by kabar
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To: Caipirabob
I'm with you. Even if it was just one incident (hey, he told a campus rent a cop, what more could he possibly have done???), which is was not, HOW could any decent human being have not been disgusted and outraged over such a lowlife being in their midst?

HOW did Peterno keep Sandusky around, even after all of this broke? He did so because they all felt that the "organization" was more important than anything else.

The entire situation is just vile, and it is the kind of thing a person goes to hell for.

77 posted on 01/22/2012 9:32:13 AM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: mom4kittys

You have a good, graceful post.

We have some hard hearted freepers who don’t understand the futility of hearsay testimony. As I read the mean comments on this thread I wonder why they are so angry at the wrong man. Perhaps they are closet liberals and don’t know it.


78 posted on 01/22/2012 9:32:13 AM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: momtothree
The good men do are often interred with their bones while the evil men do lives on afterwards.
Joe Pa...RIP....he died under a tremendous weight and now God removed it
79 posted on 01/22/2012 9:33:00 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
He knew about it, he didn’t do anything about it.

He reported it to his superiors after getting a second-hand report on the incident.

80 posted on 01/22/2012 9:34:16 AM PST by kabar
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