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Indonesia Health Minister Suspected Bird Flu Immune Drug
Media Indonesia ^ | 20 Januari 2012 22:47 | Cornelius Eko Susanto

Posted on 01/20/2012 11:59:29 AM PST by little jeremiah

The Pandemic Flu Information Forum posted a machine translation of the Indonesian article, excerpt below:

Indonesia Health Minister Suspected Bird Flu Immune Drug

JAKARTA - MICOM: Health Minister Endang Rahayu Sedyaningsih suspect in Indonesia has occurred the possibility of resistance (drug resistance) to the drug oseltamivir.

The hypothesis was made based on the presence of some positive victims of bird flu in Indonesia are still died despite oseltamivir have been given early.

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If there is resistance to oseltamivir, Indonesia no longer has a drug to counteract the spread of the H5N1 virus. Because, oseltamivir is the only drug that can kill the flu virus, although with certain prerequisites and conditions. In the market, oseltamivir sold under the brand Tamiflu.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaindonesia.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: avianflu; birdflu; h5n1; pandemic
It is well worth going to the PFI forum and reading not only the whole article, but others about this development. If the H5N1 virus has mutated to become Tamiflu resistant, then it can easily mutate as has been proven in more than one lab experiment, to easily transmit from human to human. The PFI forum is IMHO the best site to find flu related news.

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewforum.php?f=1

PANDEMIC FLU INFORMATION FORUM

1 posted on 01/20/2012 11:59:32 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: LucyT; Smokin' Joe; Travis McGee; blam; Kartographer

Pinging a few of you to this very disturbing development. In the rest of the article, the “Menkes” - Health Director” - also says that perhaps the Tamiflu resistance is why Indonesia has always had a high CFR. But this cannot be true, and is basically a public political statement. The fact is that in Indonesia whenever there is an H5N1 case, all relatives, neighbors and sometimes whole villages are administered Tamiflu and checked for symptoms. It’s basically a “Tamiflu blanket” to quell any further outbreaks, and it usually works very well. Any Tamiflu resistance would be a new development.

Also noteworthy is that the WHO and its collaborators have come out just in the last week to at most 10 days with numerous article that basically say “Tamiflu never worked/had horrid side effects/is junk” etc. Some of the articles are so foolishly nonsensical that it was obvious some other agenda was at work.

My thoughts:

The WHO knew that H5N1 had developed or was developing Tamiflu resistance (whether natural or not doesn’t really matter) and wanted the focus to be not on what H5N1 is doing, but that Tamiflu “never worked anyway”.

Keep in mind that regular seasonal flu (before swine H1N1 hit the scene) developed world wide Tamiflu resistance in one year.


2 posted on 01/20/2012 12:07:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah

‘The Pandemic Flu Information Forum’

whatever.


3 posted on 01/20/2012 1:13:36 PM PST by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Freddd

I guess you didn’t go there, then.

I guess you didn’t get swine H1N1, then (I did and it was a horrible illness).

Anyone who wants to think there cannot possibly be any bad diseases, fine with me.


4 posted on 01/20/2012 1:39:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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A Niman commentary from today, links at the link.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01201204/H5N1_Trans_Exp_Halt.html

Commentary

H5N1 Transmission Experiment Halt - Censorship Continues
Recombinomics Commentary 19:00
January 20, 2012
To provide time for these discussions, we have agreed on a voluntary pause of 60 days on any research involving highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 viruses leading to the generation of viruses that are more transmissible in mammals.

In addition, no experiments with live H5N1 or H5 HA reassortant viruses already shown to be transmissible in ferrets will be conducted during this time. We will continue to assess the transmissibility of H5N1 influenza viruses that emerge in nature and pose a continuing threat to human health.

The above comments are from a letter to Science announcing the 60 halt in H5N1 transmission experiments designed to further delineate changes associated with efficient H5N1 transmission in mammals.

However, the two papers describing the five changes in two genes remain under censorship at Nature and Science as reports of H5N1 clusters in Egypt and Indonesia raise concerns that most of these five changes are currently circulating and raising additional concerns.
H5N1 clusters in Egypt and Indonesia are rarely reported, yet both countries have each recently reported two such clusters.

Sequences from the Bali cluster in Indonesia included multiple receptor binding domain changes (D187N, A188G, R193M), and recently released sequences from H5N1 in poultry in Egypt includes recombination between H1N1pdm11 and seasonal H1N1 sequences. The most recent human H5N1 sequences from Egypt are from March of 2010, in spite of a dramatic increase in the cases fatality rate, and the two recent fatal clusters.

Moreover, the most recent human H5N1 sequence from Cambodia has HA S227N and PB1 E627K, which are likely to represent two of the five changes. Similarly, the two changes in the Gharbiya cluster in Egypt (V223I and M230I) have been fixed in clade 2.3.2.1 circulating in wild birds, as well as the recent fatal case in Shezhen, China, which also had S227R and Q196R.

The censoring of the five changes by Nature and Science continues to be hazardous to the world’s health.


5 posted on 01/20/2012 1:41:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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