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To: Seizethecarp

Obama Has Lost!

You cannot refuse to testify in a civil suit without consequence. We're all too important and we're all too busy to bother attending a hearing where we are named as a Defendant. Tough luck!

The 5th Amendment gives a criminal defendant the right to refuse to testify against himself, but a civil suit defendant does not have that right.

If Obama does not show in Georgia to testify under oath, then Plaintiffs will receive a Default Judgment. If Obama were to show up in Georgia, then he would have to answer questions under oath that would incriminate him.

1) Where were born?
2) Have you ever been told by your parents or grandparents you were a citizen of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain?
3) Have you ever been issued a passport from Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain?
4) Did you attend Occidental College as a foreign national?
5) Do you have a Certificate of Naturalization on file with the USCIS?

Obama's only option is to claim lack of jurisdiction in the State of Georgia and appeal. Elections cost money. Georgia taxpayers have a right to confirm candidates on the ballot are eligible.


45 posted on 01/19/2012 8:39:33 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Obama should Testify or Resign

Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997), was a US SCOTUS opinion establishing that a sitting President of the United States has no immunity from civil law litigation against him, for acts done before taking office and unrelated to the office.
50 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:28 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Why would number 5 matter? If he is NATURALIZED, he isn’t an NBC.

It is Minor v Happersett which will decide this case. And Minor is unequivocal. If Maliki overturns Minor, current LAW as decided by SCOTUS, then the case will go to SCOTUS.

It is a lose lose for Obama. Showing up at the hearing at all is a death knell for his illegal administration and we will be rid of Kagan and Sotomayor.


69 posted on 01/19/2012 11:32:05 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: SvenMagnussen; traditional1; Spaulding; Danae; rxsid; LucyT; Red Steel
First: This is an administrative hearing. Not a trial.

Second: The gist of Team Obama's defense is that somehow, he is "grandfathered in" Having been elected, received the votes of the Electoral College, and having been sworn in by the CJ. Therefore "he don't got to prove nuthin' to nobody."

Third: The Administrative Judge will have to order him off the ballot if he doesn't show.

Fourth: That is the BEGINNING of the legal show, not the end. Because it is at this stage that Team Obama will have to bring suit ... as a PLAINTIFF.

This might stall out on Step 2. OTOH, if the GA boys are playing it straight ... this could be the fast track to the SCOTUS.

220 posted on 01/20/2012 1:15:10 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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