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THE TRIAL OF SSGT. WUTERICH: Week One Report
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 15, 2012 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 01/16/2012 12:35:07 PM PST by RedRover

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1 posted on 01/16/2012 12:35:15 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover

Friday afternoon a Marine major named Maj. Kathryn Navin said she taught the Rules of Engagement to the Marines before they left for Iraq.
Maj. Navin testified Marines should only use deadly force to clear a structure (like houses) if they are receiving fire and can positively identify the hostile individual inside.
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I would like to see Major Kathryn Navin’s Combat record.


2 posted on 01/16/2012 12:48:57 PM PST by Venturer
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To: RedRover

Do you have a ping list on this topic? If so, I would appreciate your adding me to it.


3 posted on 01/16/2012 12:51:00 PM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Minnehaha NYC; tarheelswamprat; Sergeant Tim; smoothsailing; 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; ...
The numbers will no doubt be a large part of the defense attack--whenever they start their case. Maybe mid-week, if the trial stays on schedule.

The original charges had nine specifications of Involuntary Manslaughter, one of which was like a Violations of the Rules of Land Warfare charge in being totally vague about the number of people SSgt Wuterich is supposed to have killed.

Seems that the Corps, when announcing charges, said that "24 Iraqi men, women and children" were killed because that's the number McGirk reported in Time. Anything less would have seemed like a "cover-up", I guess. But now that we're in a trial, there can't be a hope of conviction without identification of who SSgt Wuterich is supposed to have killed or killed through dereliction.

Beyond that, hope the posting of the ROE card will be of interest.

Court was adjourned early Friday because the NCIS forensic people weren't ready. So they're expected to lead off tomorrow. Apparently, they have "photographic reconstructions" of the crime scenes--which is a pretty sketchy thing for the prosecution to be hanging its hat upon. It'd be inadmissible in many (maybe most, maybe all), civilian courts so we'll see what happens next.

4 posted on 01/16/2012 1:01:14 PM PST by RedRover
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To: SuzyQue; jazusamo

Sure do! Welcome aboard, SuzyQue!


5 posted on 01/16/2012 1:05:46 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover

So are you saying that the people killed were never positively identified? And that he’s charged with 9, not 24?

Can you please add me to PING list?

Thank you.


6 posted on 01/16/2012 1:07:21 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF; SuzyQue; RedRover; smoothsailing

Welcome NEMDF & SuzyQue, you’re both on!


7 posted on 01/16/2012 1:11:29 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: RedRover

Another very good article from Nat and thanks for the info from you.

I’d like to question Major Navin on just how you identify people in a house that shot at you before taking action to clear that house, she doesn’t sound like a mental giant.

I can’t recall ever even hearing about “photographic reconstructions” being admitted into evidence. In this case there’s not one Iraqi testifying that was there in Haditha that day. Call me skeptical.


8 posted on 01/16/2012 1:20:59 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: NEMDF; SuzyQue; RedRover; jazusamo
Welcome to the Haditha Ping List, NEMDF & SuzyQue. Below is a link to the Master Thread where you can find more information and past updates from last week on the trial.

The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter (SSgt Wuterich-Master Thread)

DEFEND OUR MARINES


9 posted on 01/16/2012 1:32:06 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for the links, smooth! I knew I forgot something!


10 posted on 01/16/2012 1:35:28 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; natshouse

Good job on the formatting, Red! I’m just now getting the hang of that alignleft alignright stuff. :)

Powerful piece by Nat, he just gets better and better!


11 posted on 01/16/2012 1:41:42 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover

Mind adding me to the list as well? TIA


12 posted on 01/16/2012 2:01:49 PM PST by gibsosa
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I just started watching the movie “Haditha” put out by netflix, and I had to turn it off in disgust. All the “innocent” homeboys and girls were brutally killed by “kill crazy” Marines.


14 posted on 01/16/2012 2:09:57 PM PST by gunner03
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To: smoothsailing

Yeah, though I meant to align right!


15 posted on 01/16/2012 2:21:56 PM PST by RedRover
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To: gibsosa; jazusamo; smoothsailing

You’re on, gibsosa!


16 posted on 01/16/2012 2:24:12 PM PST by RedRover
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To: vetposter

Really? How do you see it?


17 posted on 01/16/2012 2:27:19 PM PST by RedRover
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To: gibsosa; RedRover; jazusamo
Mind adding me to the list as well? TIA

Welcome gibsosa!

18 posted on 01/16/2012 2:32:46 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: vetposter

Ozone! I smell a ZOT in your future.


19 posted on 01/16/2012 2:34:21 PM PST by Jemian
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To: vetposter; Venturer; RedRover; jazusamo
Wuterich clearly violated the ROE.

Is that you, Murtha? Heck, I thought you were dead./s

20 posted on 01/16/2012 2:36:21 PM PST by smoothsailing
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