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To: truthkeeper; Wolfstar; VinL
There are millions of people all across this country who have registered and voted GOP their whole lives and think of themselves as conservatives, but who wouldn't last three days on FR without riding the lightning.

These are the Romney supporters. (My wife's family is chock full of them). They like a candidate who is "conservative" in personality and image, not necessarily so much in ideology.

They are not that way because of mind control beams from Karl Rove's secret underground control center. They are that way because it's what they really believe.

I desperately wish that those who insist that "the Tea Party is a juggernaut and so deserves an easy win in any GOP primary" would wake up and smell the damn coffee. It ain't so. Not yet anyway, and maybe not for years.

As I have said again and again, it's easy to zot moderates and RINO's from FR. It is impossible to zot them from the GOP voting rolls. Only persuasion will work.

46 posted on 01/16/2012 9:43:10 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Notary Sojac

Notary,

There’s a lot one may discuss is your post (e.g -”Romney supporters...my wife’s family is chock full of them. They like a candidate who is “conservative” in personality and image, not necessarily so much in ideology”-—)

They vote for someone who has a conservative personality??? Well, that explains a lot about the mess we’re in, doesn’t it?” LOL

Look, I never “zotted” anyone, nor participated in one. I hadn’t uttered 1 bad word about any candidate, though Lord knows I’ve been tempted.

But. the relevent question to you:

1. Is Mr. Obama/Dem Party avowed socialist(s)
2. Is the GOP Establishment (including Romney) a plutocracy- they unconstitutionally help the rich at the expense of the rest of the country.

That’s my concern. The unreceptive attitude to alternate arguments you inveigh against, does not apply to me, my friend.


65 posted on 01/16/2012 10:53:06 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“I desperately wish that those who insist that “the Tea Party is a juggernaut and so deserves an easy win in any GOP primary” would wake up and smell the damn coffee. It ain’t so. Not yet anyway, and maybe not for years.”

And maybe not ever.

Well said. I would also add that the only philosophical demographic that is actually growing on the conservative end of the spectrum these days is the libertarians.

Traditional conservatives are about to find themselves marginalized.


71 posted on 01/16/2012 11:02:38 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (The party of Liberty - The GOP. Join today!!)
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To: Notary Sojac; truthkeeper
They are not that way because of mind control beams from Karl Rove's secret underground control center. They are that way because it's what they really believe.

One more truth conservatives need to come to grips with...in every district in this country, people are free to choose however they want to register to vote.

There are million upon millions of people who decide to register as Republicans, each and every one of them holding a set of viewpoints unique to themselves -- unique due to their individual backgrounds, life experiences, even brain chemistry. They are Republicans because they self-determine themselves to be for whatever reasons. No one holds a gun to their heads to do so.

Therefore, to call someone a "Republican in name only" simply because he or she has a mix of political viewpoints different from one's own is the height of arrogance and, frankly, stupidity. Politics is about finding common ground with others, forming coalitions to further common causes and, as you said, persuasion. It most definitely is NOT about telling people to get lost, or about labeling them as "RINOs" or worse, thereby making the old "Reagan coalition" ever more narrow and limited.

80 posted on 01/16/2012 11:29:26 AM PST by Wolfstar (“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” Theodore Roosevelt)
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