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To: oh8eleven
"Sorry, but an Article 15 (aka, office hours) wouldn't put a dent in a military career."

You speak of the Marine Corps that you and I belonged to. That Marine Corps is gone. You have a large surplus of people trying to get in, couple that with the fact that the Marine Corps has to get down to 176,000 (or so) and in today's Marine Corps (and military in general), they are looking for reasons to force people out who want to stay in. Look at the new policy concerning tatoos. What does a tatoo on your forearm have to do with whether you are a good Marine or not? Answer, it doesn't. It's just another way to make the decision easier to force out well qualified Marines because of government mandated force reductions.
48 posted on 01/16/2012 9:40:11 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
That Marine Corps is gone.
It may have changed/morphed some, but I'll bet it would still be recognizable to old farts like us.
I went back to Lejeune in 2005 and except for the addition of a couple of fast food joints, it was essentially the same place as 1969.
With regard to forcing Marines out to help get down to 176,000, I found this in the Marine Corps Times (Feb 2009)... So it appears the Corps had been growing for at least two years ... which doesn't mean the "grow" order hasn't been superceded by a "shrink" order.
50 posted on 01/16/2012 10:18:23 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Look at the new policy concerning tatoos. What does a tatoo on your forearm have to do with whether you are a good Marine or not? Answer, it doesn't. It's just another way to make the decision easier to force out well qualified Marines because of government mandated force reductions.

Honestly, these days a lot of people are getting crazy tattoos. I'm sure some of the hysteria over gangs in the military drove some of it as well.

But Marines serving before the new policy were grandfathered in for the most part. The real impact will be on recruiting. My son said there were a lot fewer folks getting in on waivers because they have plenty of people wanting to be a Marine and they can be a lot less selective.
52 posted on 01/16/2012 11:08:25 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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