Posted on 01/11/2012 2:34:37 PM PST by Libloather
...and also time for Willard the Vulturist to be called out on his liberal positions everyday he’s running his baloney jobs scam on Republicans.
47th in job creation as governor is about as pathetic as it gets.
Must have learned THAT garbage at Bain.
That article was covered in a previous post on FR.
Newt didn't "nail" anything. He is dancing like he does on many other issues. He is either apologizing for everything he did before running for president, or he is dancing.
Newt Gingrich is a slimy character.
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Hey, “Capitalism” Einstein..
Is this ethical or not?
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT insurance agency had to PONY UP $44 MILLION TO BAIL OUT the companys underfunded pension plan.
Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
LOL!
Bobk’s hero!
Newt is questioning the integrity of a man who runs his business like a greedy thoughtless pig.
Not questioning free-markets. Questioning Mitt’s judgement and maybe his temperment to be president.
GO NEWT !
Lol ... where did you get that OWS talking point ? It’s a total lie.
There are a dozen issues with which to slam the Socialist Aristocrat, and last among them is Bain Capital. Bob
I'm sorry, but that is definitely the kind of sarcastic statement against businessmen a Socialist would say. Conservatives would never say that.
I don't think there is much more I can say to the Gingrich supporters. If you think there is something wrong with a businessman running our government, then go ahead and support Newt Gingrich.
If you are pro-business and in favor of free enterprise, free markets and Capitalism, please, please, please, stay away from Newt Gingrich and his anti-business supporters.
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Maybe the Euro-minded “right wing” but not conservatives.
Add Bain to list of things we cannot discuss
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2831650/posts
You are SICk.
Mitt’s friends on Wall St, the banks and at Lehmann brothers flatout lied about the real conditions of the companies that Mitt was pillaging. So small investors would be attracted to invest.
Then Mitt left town, the companies collapsed, and the little guy investors were SOL.
Mitt laughs all the way to the bank.. in Cayman, of course.
What Mitt did to run his business in the best way possible was not unethical! Laying off people and the other actions are not unethical!
That is Capitalism!
...ahhhh, HORSEHOCKEY... dumping the liabilities on US taxpayers is more than unethical and RhinoRomney is a Corporatist not a Capitalist! Using my tax dollars to back stop his investment risks is bogus 0bozo/GM criminality, and he and Bain could and should have been sued over it since they ignored normal pension plan payments and made the shortfall worse... and therefore the bailout by taxpayers worse. You don’t know what you’re talking about and it’s NOT defensible if you are a conservative... you sound like a big gov’t statist to me.
ymmv
1. Does stating the facts about some less than honest business practices and/or hypocrisy of big investors like George Soros, "The Union Guy" Ron Burkle or "Not Taxed Enough" Warren Buffett et al> have the same meaning as an "attack on capitalism"?
2. Newt was a member of Advisory Board at Forstmann Little, a big white shoe investment firm which competed with some of the "vulture funds" like Bain Capital or Wilbur Ross etc., so he is very well informed about PE business and the differences in investment models. Also definitely makes him anti-"anti-capitalist" and to call him a socialist or anti-capitalists is just silly. Teddy Forstmann (RIP) and his brother Nicholas (Nick) coined the phrase "Barbarians are at the gates! Let's push the barbarians back!" Teddy was a big Republican donor and philanthropist, donating time and money to reform education system and supporting voucher programs and charter schools, among many other things (instead of donating to the Met and other "glamorous" public "causes"). Ref: Other People's Money - NYM, 2004 July 12.
Most importantly, 3. The people who denounce Gingrich as "anti-capitalist rhetoric" and "speaking the language of the left" just for pointing out problems in Romney's self-described "job-creating," "executive" and "business" background (which the left will use anyway in the general election, along with "privileged," and about specifics of which Romney is uncharacteristically shy / quiet) are themselves engaging in "speaking the language of the left" by using left-wing tactic of defusing and obfuscating issues, e.g.,:
So re being instrument of "Big Government, class warfare and language of the left", it is not Newt who is involved in it, but guess who does:
The GOP's Working Class Muddle (Santorum and Romney following Democrats class-warfare) | The Santorum and Romney campaigns are following Democrats down the class-warfare rabbit hole. - FR / WSJ, by Kimberley A. Strassel, 2012 January 06
From The GOP's Working Class Muddle
In an election that needs to be about contrasts, this is point Obama. Game on for candidate Santorum, who gets to explain why his own policies for government to reward certain classes of citizens over others are any different than Mr. Obama's. Or let's see candidate Romney knock Mr. Obama's proposals to further tax America's job creators, those Mr. Romney thinks are doing "just fine." The bigger risk is that a Republican president actually pursues these distorting economic policies, sacrificing growth. These are mistakes Ronald Reagan would never have made. The Californian was great at identifying with Everyman, but he never pitted the classes against each other. ..... < snip > < snip > ..... What both campaigns are in fact doing is following Democrats down the class-warfare rabbit hole. Spooked by the Democrats' inequality theme, the Romney and Santorum campaigns are taking the narrow view, catering to the blue-collar vote, playing the class game.
Do Republicans really want to nominate yet another Big Government "compassionate conservative Republican" or yet another privileged Harvard and/or Yale-educated lawyer/MBA?
In contrast, here's what Newt was doing post-Contract With America for conservative organizations and causes:
From Pelosi Fires Back at Gingrich - FR, posts #29, #27, 2012 January 09
Now, as Mr. Gingrich prepares to launch a run for president as early as this week, this network of advocacy and for-profit groups is providing a publicity and policy machine without parallel among his likely Republican rivals, few of whom have stirred excitement among donors and activists. His network has amassed more than 1.7 million voter and donor contacts and raised $32 million between 2009 and 2010 -- more than all his potential 2012 rivals combined. Far less clear is whether these efforts, and the extent of his organizational infrastructure, will be enough to put him out front, should Mr. Gingrich decide to seek the presidential nomination. ..... < snip > (Gingrich's Secret Weapon: Newt Inc. - WSJ, by Neil King Jr. and Patrick O'Connor, 2011 May 09 In the 13 years since he suffered a string of political setbacks and quit the third most powerful job in Washington, Newt Gingrich has been busily laying the foundation for a comeback to an even grander perch. On any given day, the former Speaker of the House can be found on a chartered jet headed to Iowa to train future GOP candidates through his American Solutions group, or in Phoenix discussing ways to lower health-care costs with drug makers through his for-profit Center for Health Transformation. He might also be in Philadelphia, narrating a film produced by Gingrich Productions, or in Texas, reaching out to conservative Latino leaders through his bilingual news and commentary website, the Americano.
What did Romney-Perry-Santorum-Bachmann-Huntsman or other "talkers" do for conservative causes and organizations during that post-Contract period that was of any tangible value, instead of engaging in the class-warfare during their campaigns?
Riddle me this....How did Mitt’s business acumen help to make him a good Governor of Massachusetts?
That is a very Socialist thing to do. Socialists would refer to Romney and many, many others as greedy, thoughtless Capitalists Pigs.
When you are running a business, sometimes you have to do unpleasant (but legal) things in order to survive or prosper. Greed and survival are essential motivators in the free market system.
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Did you watch Kingofbain.com ?
Maybe you should.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ikgAzjhd8&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ikgAzjhd8&feature=youtu.be
Please check these links out before you condemn Gingrich and Perry.
He wasn't a good governor, but business experience would help any leader in government.
It helps you understand the importance of business and the needs of business, including less regulation.
Being in business develops management, leadership and financial skills (including controlling costs) that can never be developed in the public sector.
This is basic free market knowledge that all Republicans should know. It's alarming that Newt and his supporters are fighting it.
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“FEDERAL GOVERNMENT insurance agency had to PONY UP $44 MILLION TO BAIL OUT the companys underfunded pension plan.”
Was the pension fund underfunded prior to Bain’s involvement?
If it were underfunded prior to Bain’s involvement, then Bain had no ethical or legal obligation to inject it’s capital into the company plan.
My oh my! Looks like a negative ad or two with a little resemblance to what Obama will be coming out with daily next fall and Willard’s proxies get a massive wedgy and go into whiny hysterics. Shine a light on Bain and Romney and the screams of despair are heard everywhere.
On the Ace of Shades HQ site he says he’s worried this may make Romney “unelectable”. He has always been UNELECTABLE! No one has to make him that. The only reason anyone thinks he is electable is that the constant droning of the “he’s electable” mantra by the media and elites has placed the message in some empty heads.
sigh...how well the press and the GOP establishment is playing conservatives with this issue.
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