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To: cizinec; Eleutheria5

You are missing the point of the discovery. In the attempt to delegitimize Israel, Arabs and their fellow-travelers maintain a propaganda line that the Jews have no historical connection to the land at all and that, even if they once did, it ended thousands of years ago, thereby breaking the chain of any historical claims to the land. This archaeological find, like many others, debunks that propaganda by showing a Jewish presence maintained all down the centuries, even during Christian majorities that came and went and preceding the Muslim religion and its claims. In other words, the point is not that kosher bakeries are, in themselves, proof of the Jewish claim to Israel, but part of the historical record showing that Jews were there and never relinquished their claims and their attachment to the land as their homeland.

PS. The article does not say, as you imply, that there were no Muslims. The article does not say that the Jews were the majority population. In fact, it explicitly acknowledges that the area of the find was under Christian control. The article does not say the Jews claim Europe as a historical part of Israel based on Kosher bakeries in Europe, nor does the article claim that Kosher bakeries are the basis for Jewish claims to the land of Israel (I realize this was purely rhetorical, but still...). The analogy to Greece is a non-starter. The Greeks never established a Greek nation in Israel and did not maintain a continuous presence or claim to the land of Israel as a Greek homeland.


9 posted on 01/10/2012 7:03:48 AM PST by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: JewishRighter

Only one problem, though. This bakery stamp is 1.5 thousand years old. So the Pali narrative can still go: And then Muhammed conquered the land of Palestine, and his soldiers settled down and stomped on all Jewish bakery stamps except that one, raised families, and lived happily ever after, since they either killed, converted or drove out all the Jooos!, who never ever came back until right after the Holocaust, when they stole the land from the direct descendants of Mohammed’s brave soldiers by mass murdering a million poor Palestinians in Deir Yassin, a major city, in 1948. The end.


11 posted on 01/10/2012 7:10:22 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: JewishRighter
The article does not say, as you imply, that there were no Muslims.

I didn't imply it, I stated it as a fact. There were no Muslims as they did not exist until the 7th Century.

In the 6th Century, Jews, Greeks, Arabs, Romans and many other groups lived and worked in the region. The height of population and world influence for the region was 6th Century Byzantium, which was, indeed, predominantly Greek in culture. There were many ethnic Greeks all over the Middle East before they, the Armenians and other Christians were pushed out or murdered in genocide committed by the Turks in the 19th and 20th Centuries.

Evidence of a Jewish presence is all over the Middle East, in both archaeological evidence and in Byzantine, Arab, Crusader, Turkish and British documents, so if these 7th Century invaders want to claim there wasn't a continuous presence even in the face of the already overwhelming evidence, I'm pretty sure this bread stamp won't make a difference to them or any other doubter (Paulbots), nor do I think this artifact demonstrates a continuous presence. It is merely a very small piece of evidence that confirms the overwhelming evidence we already have. Retards will still ignore it.

15 posted on 01/10/2012 8:25:28 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: JewishRighter

I honestly think that this is perfect to reaffirm that the Jews belong there.


22 posted on 01/10/2012 10:39:25 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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