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To: Lx
"Regarding the P&F cells, is their only energy output in the form of heat or can it also be used to make O2 and D2 gas at the same time? I know you said it creates those gases from electrolysis and the cell is engineered to recombine D2 with O2 at the counter electrode but is that another benefit of the P&F cells, cheap (or cheaper) creation of O2 and D2?"

With P&F cells, the electroysis current is typically the only energy input. Any heat that appears is either I^2R (cell resistances), chemical heat from the "recombiner", or "anomalous heat", hopefully from CF. I think the electrolysis approach is going to turn out to be a scientific curiosity in the long run. Pons and Fleischmann used electrolysis because they were both electrochemists (if all you have is a hammer.....), and there was "some" historical evidence of "anomalous heat" in some earlier work in such cells using D2O.

"All the engineering types I know are early risers and so am I. I prefer to come in early to make sure everything works and to have an hour or two of uninterrupted work. The downside is when someone schedules a meeting at 6:00pm because they come in late and no matter how many times I decline, the same people do the same thing arghh.."

LOL....once again we are more alike than different. I got "corrupted" in college. One of the student jobs I had was working in one of the school cafeterias. You had to BE THERE for the breakfast shift around 3:30AM. I discovered that there was all this "undisturbed time" available that could be put to productive use, and have kept those kinds of hours ever since. But...as you said....those late-night meetings can be "de-motivating".

69 posted on 01/11/2012 8:23:22 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
I just watched the Seth Putterman video again and he spent almost a million dollars on not replicating Taleyarkhan. I didn't make the connection correctly before. Of course if he fails to replicate another scientist's work, it's the other guy's fault. What an ego!

I also saw a great quote from Bockris:

Many years ago, John Bockris said "Negative results can be obtained without skill and experience."

I wonder if other scientists even caught on to his cynical sarcasm. It's like the old question, what do you call someone who finished last in medical school? Doctor.
Someone had to be last.

I thought I was smarmy but Putterman, just damn...

I hope this is a simple question to answer. It seems the P&F cells work from the lightest part of the periodic table and Rossi's device (and other researchers) work on the middle part of the table starting with Nickel and ending up with copper.
In your opinion, which option makes more sense in that we'll end up with something we can use?

The only problem with coming in early is if someone else (pure management types) start doing it, they cut into my most productive time, especially when they consider meetings to be productive.

Harness the power of wasted meetings and we would be energy independent.

71 posted on 01/11/2012 8:42:42 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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