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To: D-fendr
I don't disagree with your point. But I wasn't talking just about Israel's enemies. We give money to both sides. We are not respecting the sovereignty of Israel when we use our foreign aid as a way to have control, or meddle in their internal affairs. That was what RP was saying in the video, and that's why I asked Jonty how he felt about another nation trying to buy control over us, or telling us what we can or can't do. If we, as a nation, profess to be about liberty, independence and sovereignty, then I think our foreign policy should reflect those principles, in how we treat other nations.

Speaking of that, here's a quote...

"Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all....The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest."

- George Washington, 1797

51 posted on 01/09/2012 1:28:17 AM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/ifJG_oFFDK0)
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To: incindiary
We give money to both sides.

IF we had a smart aid policy, we'd give money to the Islamicists that weakened them, playing one against the other, buying information, building intelligence, etc. That's the only kind of aid program I support for them. We're not likely to buy off their goal of theocratic world domination, not as a long term policy anyway.

I don't worry about Israel being bought by our aid, I don't worry about it jeopardizing their sovereignty. They are engaged in a constant battle for survival, they're not about to sell-out.

If we, as a nation, profess to be about liberty, independence and sovereignty, then I think our foreign policy should reflect those principles, in how we treat other nations.

I think you are again seeking to find support for a moral equivalence argument. Acting on our rinciples demands we help the good and not help the bad.

We don't respect principles of domination and subjection of free peoples. It's not principled to tolerate intolerance. We offer respect where it is deserved - otherwise it is meaningless and our respect means nothing, is worth nothing.

The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave.

I don't believe in habit as a moral principle. We should be fond of the good and hate the bad based on what they are now, not what they were.

Thanks for your reply.

53 posted on 01/09/2012 1:48:00 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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