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To: willamedwardwallace

“Uh, it looks like this will be dismissed at the hearing tomorrow.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/01/jefferson_county_judge_denies_2.html

The article may have confused some of the details of this case with the Georgia Administrative Court hearing. The judge in this case already denied a preliminary restraining order, and granted the defendant’s motion to expedite. Alabama law doesn’t have similar provisions to those that that authorize the review in Georgia.

In Georgia it looks like the Administrative Court will give the anti-eligibility arguments a hearing, both on the factual, evidentiary issues, and on the Donofrio legal theory. I stand by my bet that Obama will be on the Georgia ballot. Birther like to pretend that no one answers them on the merits, but that’s not true. Some authorities have addressed what birthers see as their merits, and they like those cases even less than the dismissals for lack of jurisdiction.

If there’s one thing birthers hate more than not getting answers to their questions, it’s getting answers to their questions. I expect the Alabama action, the topic of this thread, to be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. I think the Georgia Administrative Court is likely to address the merits, and I expect birthers will be even less happy with that outcome.


210 posted on 01/09/2012 4:00:55 AM PST by BladeBryan
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To: BladeBryan
I expect the Alabama case to be dismissed by the Sista from the hood, honoring the concept of affirmative action promotions, regardless of qualification.

After three strikes, just walk the Kenyan Indonesian citizen to first base and call it a hit.

218 posted on 01/09/2012 4:42:24 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: BladeBryan
If there’s one thing birthers hate more than not getting answers to their questions, it’s getting answers to their questions. I expect the Alabama action, the topic of this thread, to be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. I think the Georgia Administrative Court is likely to address the merits, and I expect birthers will be even less happy with that outcome.

Don't worry, they always have the "ITS A CONSPIRACY!" card to fall back on.

224 posted on 01/09/2012 5:27:55 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: BladeBryan

Blade: “I expect the Alabama action, the topic of this thread, to be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. I think the Georgia Administrative Court is likely to address the merits, and I expect birthers will be even less happy with that outcome.”

Even if the Georgia court does find the merits of the case unconvincing, it’s the first case that is actually proceeding and not getting thrown out due to “lack of standing”. This means the judgment can be appealed to higher courts and hopefully reach the SCOTUS. The problem with most all previous litigation is that it could not be escalated and the NBC issue did not get addressed at the highest levels.

Based on what you have posted on previous threads, I’m assuming you are rooting for the Imposter In Chief (OBAMA).


237 posted on 01/09/2012 8:41:20 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: BladeBryan
President Obama, when he is his de facto office upstairs – the one that is closer to Jarrett’s own office, and a short hop over to the residence, he spends his time there often in shorts, or sweats, a t-shirt, and those sandal things…flip-flops. There is a large screen television in there and that’s where hours of his time are spent when he is actually at the White House. Day in and day out. The First Lady rules the residence, and the president heads over to his 2nd floor West Wing study. Starting around last spring, he started to take regular briefings in there. And the instructions that went out on those briefings to the president were that they were to be most importantly – brief. Anything more than about 15 minutes is unacceptable to Obama. So let’s look through the eyes of someone heading into Barack Obama’s upstairs office at the White House to give him a briefing.

Maybe it’s on national security. Maybe the economy. Energy policy. Whatever – doesn’t matter. The scenario being played out these days is pretty much the same regardless of the particulars. You knock on the door – it’s always closed. Always. Often you have to knock for some time before being given approval from inside to enter. The big screen will be on – the volume loud. You can easily hear it from outside the door. The sports channels are the ones most commonly playing, though sometimes the channel will be set to music, or Fox News. Sometimes Valerie Jarrett might be there, but most often it is just the president and his personal aide. A large leather chair will be facing the television – it’s well worn. Not part of the White House furnishings but something the president must have brought in from back home. That’s where you’ll most often find the President of the United States – the most powerful man in the free f**ing world.

He often sits with one leg draped over one of the chair’s arms and the other leg stuck straight onto the floor. Shorts, sweats, a t-shirt, and like I said, no shoes or just those sandal things that so many of the younger people like to wear these days. And that leg that’s draped over an arm of the chair will be bopping up and down, like…like someone with a lot of nervous energy. Like a kid does. And there’s the smell of smoke hanging on the president. The guy never quite smoking – that was all bullsh*t. I told you that already. In fact, there’s one of those smokeless ash trays on the desk in there. And that desk, it’s a mess. Magazines spread out all over it. Stupid sh*t too. Real low brow reading material the president is into. People. Rolling Stone. Lots of those tabloid things. The most common thread with this sh*t is it’s about the president. If it’s about him, he’s gonna read it. Good or bad – doesn’t matter. If somebody is talking about him, he’s reading it. He’s watching it. Whatever. The guy’s self-obsession is off the f***ing charts.

So that’s what you first see when you enter the room – the upstairs office, of President Obama. Next you’re gonna notice how small the guy looks. Really thin. He pads his suits up you know. The top end. The shoulders. It became an actual issue during the 2008 campaign – some of his handlers were saying it made his neck look too small. Fact is, it made his neck look just like it is – small. The guy is scrawny. All knees and elbows sitting in that chair. Sometimes he gets up when you come in, sometimes he remains seated and will just turn the volume on the TV down with the remote and say, “What you got?” That foot is bouncing up and down while you give him the briefing, but he rarely looks over at you – always looking at whatever is on the television.

If it’s Jarrett in the room, or the personal assistant, one of them is there to keep the time. Your time. Don’t go over that ten minutes. And even if the president doesn’t look like he hears a word you’re saying, they are listening to everything. Every **da*n syllable coming out of your mouth, and if something is said they don’t like, they jot down notes. Been told it’s to use for the end of day summary they give the president – their own version of what is important and what can be ignored…and who might need to be pushed down, or pushed out…or whatever. So you’re looking at the president, this skinny guy, who’s ignoring you, who’s dressed like some kind of f***ing frat boy wannabe, with somebody else taking notes on what you’re saying, and then you get up and walk out.

The president might acknowledge you on some days, give a little not, maybe even a thank you, but most often he just continues to look at the TV, bounce that foot on the chair, his skin looking off-color, pale, the eyes out of focus, the hair a helleva lot more gray than is shown in public, the wrinkles around the mouth far deeper…and the hands. His fu***ng hands are so…they are just these thin little stick digits. They are like these long-fingered woman’s hands. And his wrists, you could wrap your own fingers all the way around those wrists – again, so much like a woman’s hands. Almost freakish. Certainly not the strong alpha-male type image that America was given during the 2008 campaign.

243 posted on 01/09/2012 9:25:20 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: BladeBryan
If there’s one thing birthers hate more than not getting answers to their questions, it’s getting answers to their questions. I expect the Alabama action, the topic of this thread, to be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. I think the Georgia Administrative Court is likely to address the merits, and I expect birthers will be even less happy with that outcome.

I said on the very first day that Alabama would dismiss. The Judge is a Democrat Hack with longstanding Racial animosity. In Georgia, I expect the judge will rule that Obama is qualified based on the false theory that the 14th Amendment "citizen" is the same thing as a "natural born citizen" as this fallacy is quite prominent in legal circles.

If there *IS* a hitch with the Georgia case, it might be the result of Hawaii's refusal to produce an original birth certificate. The Georgia judge may very well accept that piece of crap replacement birth certificate as valid, despite experts testimony that it is a poor fabrication.

To sum it up, a "replacement" birth certificate (Due to Obama having been adopted, TWICE) will be ruled to be just as good as a real one. THAT ruling will establish 14th amendment citizenship which will then be ruled to be the same thing as "natural citizenship" and the A$$hole lawyer types will all pat themselves on the back because one of their own accepted the twisted logic of their stupid theory, and decreed it to be legitimate.

The working of the legal system in this nation is a tragic comedy. Their reasoning and decisions would be hilarious if the results weren't so horrible.

268 posted on 01/09/2012 12:39:44 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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