Posted on 01/07/2012 2:24:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Comparatively speaking, the United States does not starve its education system of revenue. The U.S. is one of the leaders in spending on Education, and yet it's schools are rated "average" by international bodies.
The three-yearly OECD Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) report, which compares the knowledge and skills of 15-year-olds in 70 countries around the world, ranked the United States 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics.
Worse, out of 34 OECD countries, only 8 have a lower high school graduation rate. The United States' education outcomes most resemble Poland's, a nation that spends less than half on education than the U.S.
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Reasons it is so high:
* We build big buildings for students but do not force kids to shut up and sit down in class.
* We force kids to sit through diversity training but don’t punish them for beating each other up.
* We have too many administrators who won’t fire a teacher until the first rape or fifth molestation is proven.
* We add ever more laws and standards for teachers to follow but never enforce those in the classroom.
* We cut advanced classes but not extra psychologists for “special” education students, classifying normal but undisciplined kids as “special” to avoid testing, then hire more assistants, driving up cost to educate those who need the fewest resources and most discipline.
* We pay administrators 2-4x what we pay teachers, causing the best teachers to leave the profession or become bureaucrats. Scores go down, so we hire more professionals who don’t teach to figure out why.
* We let schools add in more services (birth control, daycare, clothes for needy) when they cannot achieve the primary one (education).
Especially after WWII many schools at all levels went crazy and greedy for money particularly for administrative costs and salaries. The trend was exacerbated by the availability of G.I. Bill money by which any non-suited person could go and get a degree to teach. The entire education system has been dumbed down for years where the intent is just to have some piece of paper called a diploma in anything not useful to employers needing those with a real education to do the work needed and paid for..
You would get the expected results, to a degree, as there will be some significant exceptions, but mainly because the drivers for test performance are overwhelmingly race/ethnicity.
I.e., US whites are overwhelmingly “red”, US blacks and hispanics are overwhelmingly “blue”.
I believe Rush calls it “screwl”
“Especially after WWII many schools at all levels went crazy and greedy for money...”
My wife is from the other side of the country. They dealt with things different there. Classes were 40 kids, they behaved (or painfully learned to behave), and EVERYONE respected the teachers.
Here it’s different. We have classes half that size in our inner cities, and the teachers are such crap that it’s hard to blame the parents for not respecting them. Read Thomas Sowell and you’ll see where what profession that last 25% of college-bound graduates went into (hint, it has a lot to do with this thread).
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Do other countries think that to solve a problem, you just throw more money at it? Problem solved.
And NEA.
Close. It’s Marxism.
NEA,Marxism-same thing.
Because our teachers stopped being teachers and became “educators”.
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“That, and would you approve of something that Teddy Kennedy approved of?”
I can’t argue too hard with you on this...as I’m cornered. What you have are the ‘teachers’ pitted against Kennedy. Who to support...no one.
The European and Asian school systems/bureaucracies are even more Marxist than US public school unions.
They certainly would not condone a lot of what passes for enlightened educational policy in the US.
Even the ex-Soviet systems were extremely conventional, even old fashioned pedagogically. Most actual communist systems had rigid tracking, etc. A communist school system, when operating ideally (when it wasn’t crippled by inefficiency and corruption) was intended to put out extremely capable graduates, and they often did. They wasted lots of time with ideology but they effectively taught good math and languages.
US educational practices and their foundational obsessions don’t come from Marx, Lenin or Mao. Their ideas come from some stranger sources.
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You so full of it. Sight words suck!!!
(see, I don’t care)
What do you know? You think 4+4-8 ...because you don’t believe in new math!
(People who can't type, suck!)
“4+4=8...that’s what you think!”
LOL - maybe I’m old-fashioned then.
I have dealt with it for years. It’s cultural. Humanism does not work to socialize children in a healthy way so they can learn. Kids don’t do well with amorality. Things of good character and bad character have to be very clear to them and modeled by parents and staff to them. Multicultural is divided diversity race tribes who are taught to hate and blame the others.
We have to go back to western culture’s vision, values and morals of America’s melting pot if we want western quality schools and outcomes. Otherwise we are headed for a zoo with no bars society. Animals don’t learn so well.
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