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To: adc
Well, I'm not a defeatist like you, and I'm old enough to remember this same narrative being played out prior to Reagan's victory in 1980.

Are we a different country than we were in 1980? Well, yes we are. But so what? Obama and his Marxist minions have sent the country on a downward spiral. There is no better time than today to remind the voting population of the differences between collectivism and conservatism. If we can't win that argument today, then we are in an irreversible spiral. You concede that spiral already exists. I don't believe it does.

What you want is to surrender to someone who, in the big picture, offers very little difference from Obama. They are both statists. That being the case, I'll take my chances with the uncharismatic conservative. I believe the voting population has had enough with charisma (and hope and change) over the past three years. We listened to your BS four years ago, and we ended up with someone who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Been there, done that. No thanks.

You may see benefits from adopting a surrender monkey posture on the upcoming election. I'm not a surrender monkey so I hope you'll excuse me if I don't behave like one.

129 posted on 01/06/2012 10:19:28 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

“There is no better time than today to remind the voting population of the differences between collectivism and conservatism.”
As if they care. How do you begin to explain the differences between the two when they don’t even understand either one? Please.

“I’ll take my chances with the uncharismatic conservative.”
You and many others who don’t get it will. You need more than “conservartive” to win a general against Obama.

“We listened to your BS four years ago, and we ended up with someone who couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.”
Mc Cain had neither conservatism nor charisma. No surprise there. It was over before it was over.

“Been there, done that.”
Yes, and we’ll do it again, unfortunately, with an irritating candidate (to the masses) such as Newt or Santorum. Personally, they would be just fine for me, as would have the others. But, you’re absolutely right that I am not only pessimistic, but extremely certain that my values, social & economic, are not shared by most voters today.


186 posted on 01/06/2012 1:16:03 PM PST by adc
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