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WSJ: Can Perry Come Back?
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 5, 2012 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 01/05/2012 1:16:43 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

National conservative leaders are wondering who, if anyone, can stop Mitt Romney from walking off with the Republican nomination after his narrow win in Iowa and his expected comfortable victory in New Hampshire next week. The name that keeps surfacing is Rick Perry, which says a lot about the desperation that the anti-Romney forces are feeling now.

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Perry insiders say that the plausible course forward for the candidate is to make this a one-on-one race with Mr. Romney so that the conservative vote doesn't split in two, three or four ways.

South Carolina has a history of deciding the eventual GOP primary winner. If Mr. Perry can take first or second place, he can live to fight another day and prepare for Super Tuesday, when voters in the bulk of Southern states go to the polls. Perry supporters also say that a comeback depends on his ability to make this a North versus South race. They say that three-quarters of Republican voters aren't sold on Mr. Romney. The problem for Mr. Perry, of course, is that even more voters aren't sold on him, either, in part because he has done such a lousy job of educating voters about his admirable record on jobs and growth in Texas.

Many conservative leaders that I talked to after the Iowa caucuses are rallying around the latest flash, Rick Santorum. But others have concluded that despite all of his debate mishaps and his poorly run campaign thus far, Mr. Perry may be the only Republican candidate capable of beating Mr. Romney. As one campaign aide told me: "We have to make a good second impression."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alreadyover4perry; conservatism; gopprimary; heartless; jobs; larazarick; no; ooooops; ooops; oops; perry2012; perry2020; perryastroturfing; singledigitsperry
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To: dirtboy

Have you listened to the interview in my post above?

I highlighted it to give information to FReepers about Perry, one of the “remaining conservative candidates.”

It really is quite good.


21 posted on 01/05/2012 1:44:16 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Not to interrupt the in-fighting.
I like Perry, I live in Dallas, 5th gen Texan.
However he blew it in the debates, its that simple.
He likely was still on drugs from his back surgery and its not fair, he is smarter than that. However I think that's just the facts of the situation. He can not un-ring that bell.
22 posted on 01/05/2012 1:44:16 PM PST by pwatson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You keep avoiding the question, CW.

Care to call into question Jim's judgement in the thread I linked to?

But, then again, it is ypur MO to avoid such things.

23 posted on 01/05/2012 1:46:26 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: McGavin999
...Rove is really in the tank for Romney,

I swear, Sean Hannity almost sounds like he is too.

24 posted on 01/05/2012 1:47:24 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy

What are you going on about?

I have said nothing about Jim Robinson.

Why are you starting a fight?


25 posted on 01/05/2012 1:49:30 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy

“We’ve never had a perfect conservative yet. Not even the magnificent Ronald Reagan. We and they all have warts.”

True dat.

Therefore, beating front Willard “Massachusetts Lib/Mod” Flopney has to be any conservative’s goal first and foremost. Period.

AND Newt gets it. Santorum gets it. Bachmann gets it. Perry hopefully wises up soon and gets it. (I doubt Paul or Huntsman get it.)

Reagan would have tried to stop Willard’s quest FOR SURE.

I say NEWTORUM!!

Willard the Lib won’t win SC or FL if we unite out conservative forces and bomb the hell out of him DAILY. I urge folks to give to both campaigns after they give to this site.

P.S. A vote for SINGLE DIGIT Perry is a vote for Romney and anyone with a brain knows that. Get on board the Newtorum wagon now or simply allow Willard the nomination. Please choose wisely, folks! Choose the conservatives that CAN debate Willard Obama passionately, sharply, and speak coherently about OUR conservative principles.

That’s of course, narrows it down to SPEAKER NEWT and RICK SANTORUM. I think Reagan would agree with that amongst this current field of candidates. It is what it is.


26 posted on 01/05/2012 1:50:28 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: NavyCanDo

It is early, but perhaps McCain isn’t the best person to highlight as an example of a “comeback.” He was a lousy choice.


27 posted on 01/05/2012 1:52:26 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: pwatson
He likely was still on drugs from his back surgery and its not fair, he is smarter than that. However I think that's just the facts of the situation. He can not un-ring that bell.

And that is that? All his record? The Texas record? Jobs? His good debates? His conservative foundation and 10th Amendment fights he's taken on with D.C. (and won)...all that is out the door? None of the other candidates had one poor performance? This is the way we are now? This is American intelligence?

28 posted on 01/05/2012 1:52:42 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: CainConservative

I expect a lot of voters will give the fact that Rick Perry served 5 years in the Air Force flying C-130s some consideration when they look at the entire picture.


29 posted on 01/05/2012 1:58:27 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...Rove is really in the tank for Romney,
“I swear, Sean Hannity almost sounds like he is too.”

No, Sean isn’t yet. But all of the establishment or liberal tv pundits - Rove, Hume, Kraut, Coulter, Will, O’Reilly, Beck, Noonan, 95% of CNN, and 99% of MSNBC are definitely in the tank for Willard.

Also, I’d say sadly Fox News is 70/30 for Willard. For now.

I pray that changes RIGHT after SC and Florida results come in for Newt or Rick S.


30 posted on 01/05/2012 2:00:37 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: NavyCanDo

Yes, anything can happen. But the establishment GOP is pushing the “it’s all over” crap to discourage us.

Can’t let them beat us or manipulate us, Guys. They’re as bad as the Democrats.


31 posted on 01/05/2012 2:00:58 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hey, CW! Thanks for the post. Do you reckon this had anything to do with the results in Iowa?

"2012 Iowa Caucus Voter Guide"

Prepared by the Iowa Renewable Fuels Association

At least Governor Perry stood his ground on this stuff. Maybe Iowa was a dangerous place to do it.

32 posted on 01/05/2012 2:05:40 PM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I love Perry’s service but he merely does Willard a big favor by bleeding off 6% (nationally) of the conservative vote from Newt and Santorum.

What good does it do to split any of the conservative vote three ways and allow the Massachusetts moderate liberal to win SC and FL?

It’s not rocket science, mam.


33 posted on 01/05/2012 2:05:45 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: pwatson
However he blew it in the debates, its that simple. He likely was still on drugs from his back surgery and its not fair, he is smarter than that. However I think that's just the facts of the situation. He can not un-ring that bell.

Are you saying his back surgery caused him to support in-state tuition rates for illegals for the past 10 years, and to call those opposed to him on it heartless during one of the debates?

Did his back surgery cause him to sign the legislation in 2001? Did his back surgery cause him to sign related legislation in 2005 to help clear up legal issues regarding the 2001 legislation? Did his back surgery cause him to defend the legislation in 2007 when Republican legislators were talking about repealing it? Did his back surgery cause him to defend the legislation in 2010 during the Republican gubernatorial primary in Texas? Did his back surgery cause him to claim that critics of the legislation don't have a heart during a 2011 debate?
34 posted on 01/05/2012 2:09:14 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: pwatson

“Not to interrupt the in-fighting.
I like Perry, I live in Dallas, 5th gen Texan.
However he blew it in the debates, its that simple.
He likely was still on drugs from his back surgery and its not fair, he is smarter than that. However I think that’s just the facts of the situation. He can not un-ring that bell.”

BINGO! And of course the surgery had a lot to do with it sadly. But he’s still my favorite governor. Bar none. And that’s where he should stay after he endorses Newt or the the OTHER Rick. : )


35 posted on 01/05/2012 2:11:22 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Chasaway
I posted on ethanol and the candidates this morning.

I did not know about the "voter guide."

Geeze.....

Thank you.

36 posted on 01/05/2012 2:11:37 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As one campaign aide told me: "We have to make a good second impression."

Throw out the "oops" moment and other lackluster debate performances. Right or wrong, being a "folksy" TX governor not far removed from 2008, he's associated with Bush 43. While unfair to both Perry and Bush, it's a problem.

His "second impression" was not helped by the comments he made leaving Iowa. It's also a bit disingenuous to sit down in Sept for over 1hr of discussion with the Union Leader, make some appearances in NH, then bail on the state's primary because you don't like the way the tea leaves are reading.

Giuliani tried the "all in" tactic with FL 4 years ago. Perry's likely to have the same results with the strategy.

37 posted on 01/05/2012 2:12:19 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: af_vet_rr

Kinda piling on there, aren’t ya? 15 yard penalty for you! ; )


38 posted on 01/05/2012 2:13:39 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; fieldmarshaldj; DoughtyOne; ...
WSJ: Can Perry Come Back?

Why not? Perry comebacks #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and #9 worked so well. /s

39 posted on 01/05/2012 2:14:24 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: CainConservative
I love Perry’s service but he merely does Willard a big favor by bleeding off 6% (nationally) of the conservative vote from Newt and Santorum.

Stop listening to John McCain, it's way too early for anybody to be dropping. Except for maybe Bachmann and Huntsman.

Huntsman is probably bleeding off votes from Romney, and Bachmann engaged in some ridiculous and vicious attacks against non-Romney candidates. She doomed her campaign - not many folks supporting other candidates are going to flock to her after she demonized their candidates.
40 posted on 01/05/2012 2:15:30 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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