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Mantra: Santorum is a "Big Government Conservative"
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 4, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/04/2012 1:42:43 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: Now there's a mantra -- there's mantra out there -- and it's even now spread to CBS News: "Will Santorum's big government conservatism resonate?" It's everywhere, folks. "Santorum's big government conservatism." Have you ever heard "big government conservatism" associated with Rick Santorum before today? Have you? Have you? All right, very rarely. Some of you might. In Pennsylvania in some of his campaigns it might have been said, but nationally most people are hearing this for the first time after he wins the Hawkeye Cauci. Now, it started (at least I first saw it) in conservative media and then The Cato Institute, which is Libertarian. Now CBS News has it. So let's talk about this for a second.

I remember in the early days of this program, one of the things that I said when I was actually in the process of introducing myself to the audience, explaining my views and so forth. I remember saying... I'm gonna have to paraphrase myself; I don't have the exact quote in front of me 'cause I'm going back to 1988 or '89 now, maybe 1990. But I said, "In certain things, conservatives actually do like a big government. For example, conservatives do want an activist government defending what's right and attacking what's wrong." Big government may not be the term, but, for example: Conservatives do think that it's the role of government to protect the sanctity of life, as does Rick Santorum. If government doesn't, who else will? And it stems from our founding documents: Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. The Declaration of Independence.

Clearly the government has a role here in defending life. If they don't, who will? Also, the government should be used effectively to fight crime. Conservatives are all for, for example, the government fighting illegal immigration. Now, is that big government or is that responsible government? Big government is being misused here when applied to Santorum. Big government as it's used today means welfare state, and Santorum does not believe in a welfare state. So the left is playing a rhetorical game here, folks, and I want to alert you to this. "Big government" has a specific meaning today, and it means welfare state. It means redistribution. It means high taxes. It means command-and-control of the economy. And that's not what Santorum believes. So the left knows that "big government" is a negative. It is a harmful term to attach to somebody, and that's why they're trying to attach it to Santorum. But Rick Santorum does not believe in the big government of Barack Obama. It's totally different thing for him.

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RUSH: Let me give you an example here on this big government garbage. Here is more from the CBS story about Santorum. "Santorum's voting record shows that he embraced George Bush–style 'big-government conservatism.' For example, he supported the Medicare prescription-drug benefit and No Child Left Behind. He never met an earmark that he didn't like. In fact, it wasn't just earmarks for his own state that he favored, which might be forgiven as pure electoral pragmatism, but earmarks for everyone, including the notorious 'Bridge to Nowhere.' The quintessential Washington insider, he worked closely with Tom DeLay to set up the 'K Street Project,' linking lobbyists with the GOP leadership."

Now, let me tell you something. Let me tell you what all that's about. The Democrats own all of that. What Rick Santorum and DeLay were trying to do was disempower the Democrats' bureaucrat lobbying reach into Washington. They were trying to get an equal foothold. It's the way the game is played. For all of us who are devoted to ideas, God bless us, but it is money that makes that town turn. It's money that makes that town run. It is money that motivates most people to want to be in that town. It's money that motivates most people to want to win elective office. It's being in control of the federal budget that is the great carrot that's dangling in front of everybody's eyes because that's the power.

Now, the Democrats own this.

What Rick Santorum has always been about is disempowering the Democrats. Same thing with Tom DeLay. It is why the Democrats had to take DeLay out. It's why the Democrats came up with these phony prosecutions of DeLay and did everything they could to get him out of the Republican leadership: Because Tom DeLay was a successful enemy of the Democrats and their entrenched power in that town; and Santorum knows full well the entrenched power in that town and he is devoted to breaking it up, pure and simple. His K Street Project was simply, you know, nothing more than an attempt to lessen the Democrats' lobbying power.

Everybody talks about "special interests," and somehow the special interests only end up on the Republican side. All these wealthy fat cats, it's always Republicans. The Democrats are these famous, clean and pure as the wind-driven snow. They don't have any big bucks donors. They don't have any big bucks members. It's a crock. It's the exact opposite. The big money is the Democrat Party. Santorum, DeLay, all these others who got in on this were trying to break that up -- and so now the long knives are out for Santorum; and I guarantee you: The fact that the media and the Democrats are trying to associate Santorum with "big government "is an indication of something very important.

They know that it can kill a conservative's chances, and that it resonates. People do not want big government is what this means. It means now that the Democrats today are taking Santorum seriously and some even on our side who are now taking him seriously, think that they can discredit Santorum by attaching him with this big government idea. Because it's a killer, particularly with the Tea Party and with conservative Republicans. So this is a full-fledged effort here to discredit Santorum with what's essentially a lie, because there are many different kinds of big government. The irony of the left using the idea of "big government," a term that they have completely discredited to try to smear a conservative!

But "big government" to the left means income redistribution, universal health care, union government workers, cradle-to-grave socialism. Those are things that Santorum vehemently opposes! Santorum by no means supports big government in that regard. The big government Santorum supports is a government that protects people by enforcing the law -- be it the right to life, be it the border and immigration or anything else. There are certain constitutional responsibilities that government has that they have abrogated. Be very careful, folks, not to fall for this big government stuff, because Rick Santorum... There is not a Republican out there that is "big government" in the sense that the left is "big government."

Well, wait. I may have to make a modification in that. I'm not gonna mention any name right now. Don't want to go there. But when it comes to Santorum, this whole notion -- I can't say this forcefully enough and right now I can't say it enough, period. I noticed this this morning, this mantra: "Santorum's big government conservatism, big government conservative, disaster in the White House. Santorum big government." No, no, no, no, no, no, no -- and I remember telling all of you when I started this program late eighties, early nineties, that we conservatives like big government in a lot of ways. We want it enforcing the border and the law. We want it defending and upholding the Constitution.

We don't believe in no government. We never have believed in no government! There has been an attempt for decades to equate conservatism with no government. That's Ron Paul. That's the Libertarians. We're fully aware as conservatives government has a role. It has a central role in many things: Enforcing the law, defending freedom, defending and protecting the Constitution, freedom and liberty; life, liberty, purest of happiness. If government doesn't do it, who will? But that is not to say -- and that certainly is not the case for Santorum to say -- that big government, that we believe in redistribution, high taxes, creating dependence, higher welfare, higher unemployment.

That's not what Santorum believes. Do not fall for this notion that he does -- and again the very idea that they think, they hope they can tar Santorum with this big government business means what? It means that even the proponents of big government know it's a killer; that the majority of people in this country don't want big government, otherwise they wouldn't dare could you see Santorum of being a big government guy. If being a big government guy was a winner, they wouldn't associate it with him. Big government is a loser. That's why they're trying to tie Santorum to it, which ultimately is good for us in the sense that we have not lost the country. We have not lost the people.

If big government anything was a winner, then they'd be running around calling Obama a big government guy, not Santorum. What's Obama doing? Obama's trying to make himself out to be not a big government guy! Democrats can't win being who they are. We've said this over and over again. They cannot win being honest. We conservatives, and this is true of Santorum, believe in a strong government, strong military, strong and just courts, strong law and order. But we don't believe it has to be "big." It does not have to be a leviathan. Where's the CBS News attack on Obama for being a big government guy? Where is it? It's not there -- and the reason is it's a killer, and that's why they're trying to tie it to Santorum.

Now, it's ultimately going to be up to him to explain this. If he chooses to, if he chooses to respond to this charge that he's a big government conservative, he's gonna have to explain what that means -- and he's gonna have to very clear what it doesn't mean, and it doesn't mean that he wants the government running people's lives, and he wants the government raising taxes, that he wants the government picking winners and losers in life, that he wants the government taxing people and redistributing the proceeds. That's not what he wants. That's what they're trying to suggest, and they will go out of their way to suggest that Santorum would use government to make sure you can't get an abortion if you want, even when it's legal.

That's what they'll try to do, because they are scared of the social issues, too. So in matter of a few hours, look at how all this has changed -- in a matter of just a few hours -- which of course is why I, El Rushbo, refuse to get depressed and down in the dumps about the Republican field and where it was headed and that's the reason I didn't get behind anybody because too much can happen. Things can change on a dime and the unexpected (by definition) is going to happen in politics more often than not; and history can tell you that after the first election, be it a caucus or a primary, you're gonna have people that are out of it. The first official declaration that they have lost, where do they go? Certainly not into debt so they get out of the race.

The field winnows, gets smaller. Now the whole dynamic is changed. The whole dynamic is changed here. It's fascinating.

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1 posted on 01/04/2012 1:42:46 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It’s an oxymoron. If he’s for big government, he’s not a conservative. If he’s a conservative, he’s not for big government.


2 posted on 01/04/2012 1:45:23 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Kaslin

I haven’t forgotten what Rush said about Santorum being one of 3 in the race (Bachmann and Perry were the others) who we could count on to hold firm and not pander to the mushy middle.


3 posted on 01/04/2012 1:46:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Kaslin
Let me give you an example here on this big government garbage. Here is more from the CBS story about Santorum. "Santorum's voting record shows that he embraced George Bush–style 'big-government conservatism.' For example, he supported the Medicare prescription-drug benefit and No Child Left Behind. He never met an earmark that he didn't like. In fact, it wasn't just earmarks for his own state that he favored, which might be forgiven as pure electoral pragmatism, but earmarks for everyone, including the notorious 'Bridge to Nowhere.' The quintessential Washington insider, he worked closely with Tom DeLay to set up the 'K Street Project,' linking lobbyists with the GOP leadership."

he forgot that Santorum also voted for the National Community Reinvestment Act...and was a supporter of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac support for low income home buyers

Sorry Rush...good effort...but that is a record of big government conservatism

Is there still time for Jim DeMint to get into this race?

4 posted on 01/04/2012 1:47:35 PM PST by distressed
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To: Kaslin

he reminds me of Joel Olsteen.


5 posted on 01/04/2012 1:47:44 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: Kaslin

Heh heh Rush...I’ve said it on here this morning. ;)


6 posted on 01/04/2012 1:48:10 PM PST by Claud
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To: Kaslin
Scaring conservatives while in the background they're desperately trying to figure out how to manufacture a sex scandal.

7 posted on 01/04/2012 1:49:06 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: distressed

Maybe he’s the 2nd coming of Huckaphoney?


8 posted on 01/04/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: Kaslin

I can understand what Rush is getting at here but its not convincing for several reasons:

1. I’ve followed Santorum’s entire career in the House and Senate. I saw his campaigns. The “Big Government Conservative” is not some new “smear” on him. He was always pro-union and advocated benefits for senior citizens as a Congressman and Senator. He, quite frankly, was not that much further Right on economic issues than John Heinz and Arlen Specter. He was always a strong social conservative, but no one ever considered him an economic conservative.

2. Rush points out that Santorum was one of the leaders of the GOP “K Street Project.” He’s fighting a losing battle trying to make excuses for it. DeLay and Santorum loaded up legislation with pork and special breaks for lobbyists. Think of it — Santorum was the Senate version of Tom DeLay. He was third in rank in the Senate and the GOP’s point man with lobbyists in the Senate. That is not an outsider. Its the type of person who creates TARP and Wall Street bailouts.


9 posted on 01/04/2012 1:52:32 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Daveinyork

Well said!


10 posted on 01/04/2012 1:53:33 PM PST by freespirited
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To: distressed

Santorum was a freshman attending Penn State U when the Community Reinvestment Act was passed.


11 posted on 01/04/2012 1:53:40 PM PST by skeeter
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To: distressed

Yeah, the mantra of Santorum being a big govt conservative, unfortunately appears to be a correct one.

From what I gather so far, Santorum is sound when it comes to a consistent social conservative platform—which is more than enough for some GOP voters, it seems. But in sound mind, I can’t accept that given the systemic fiscal crises this country faces.


12 posted on 01/04/2012 1:53:55 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Hucklephoney...maybe GWB...I don’t know what he is...but a fiscal conservative he hasn’t been so I don’t trust that he is now


13 posted on 01/04/2012 1:54:21 PM PST by distressed
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To: Kaslin

So much of this is trying to cherry pick problem votes in order to distract form Romney’s liberal RINO agenda. Here is what Santorum and Newt should reply when this thing comes up: “Romney invented Obamacare.” Three words, every time: “Romney invented Obamacare.” That’s all you need, if they would only wise up and do it.


14 posted on 01/04/2012 1:54:25 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: BitWielder1

I assume you are talking about Herman Cain? There is no proof that it came from republicans, there is prove however that is came from the Chicago smear machine


15 posted on 01/04/2012 1:56:48 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Then there’s Newt who at the Huckabee forum said that he would eliminate the EPA and replace it with an “environmental solutions agency”.

Recommissioning an agency is no way to shrink government.


16 posted on 01/04/2012 1:57:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Kaslin

Rush just made up his own rules on this one.. whether you like him or not Santorum is NOT a smaller government Tea Party type candidate.. not even close

he’s much more close to the Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett, Kay Bailey Hutchinson type Republican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpCE1lsQ8is

yeah Rick your buddy Arlen was a key vote alright.. for OBAMACARE..

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17 posted on 01/04/2012 2:00:34 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: distressed
Is there still time for Jim DeMint to get into this race?

In his last year in office, Santorum had the same CU rating as DeMint, 96%. Maybe DeMint is not a conservative either?

18 posted on 01/04/2012 2:02:17 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: cripplecreek
He certainly wont be as mushy as Romney.

Santorum – AGW “just an excuse for more government control of your life”

19 posted on 01/04/2012 2:03:16 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Daveinyork

I really like Rick Santorum and will support him for as long as he is in the race. Sadly, he will be a flash in the pan.
The state-run, liberal-left, communist-progressive, lame-stream media will DESTROY the guy. He was my U.S. Senator and I respected the man - sadly the media has an agenda already in operation to take him down.


20 posted on 01/04/2012 2:05:52 PM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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