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BREAKING!!! Georgia Court to Hear Natural Born Citizen Case vs Obama
The National Patriot ^ | 1/3/12 | Craig Andresen

Posted on 01/03/2012 3:01:39 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Norm Lenhart

That’s why so many 0h0m0 professional suckup trolls used to keep trying to assert that no one on FR cared about the NBC status (esp. the parental part) until after the election.


61 posted on 01/03/2012 7:52:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: PA-RIVER
"The possibilities are endless. The Presidency would be an international position. We have Turkish women flying here every day to give birth, and return home"

That's why the phrase, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is SO important!!

62 posted on 01/03/2012 8:02:01 PM PST by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Happy New Year to you too!

It is starting off pretty good. The Ducks won the Rose Bowl and THAT right there feels darned good.

Even better - Ron Paul will finish 3rd in Iowa! PHEW.


63 posted on 01/03/2012 8:12:01 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae; All

Video: Press Conference with NH Representatives Regarding Obama Ballot Access Challenge

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/video-press-conference-with-nh.html


64 posted on 01/03/2012 8:33:29 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Nachum; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ..

Yowsa! ping


65 posted on 01/03/2012 10:06:17 PM PST by bitt (Socialism works great until you run out of Chinese money.)
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To: Nachum; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ..

yowza ping


66 posted on 01/03/2012 10:13:41 PM PST by bitt (Socialism works great until you run out of Chinese money.)
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To: bitt; Nachum

Great! The issue has legs. Obviously if this turns out to prove the Kenyan is not a natural born citizen of two parents and they refuse him from being on the ballot in GA., obviously more states will follow through with the “right thing to do” and follow suit. We can only hope. But at least there are Constitutional minded Americans in positions to bring this to a head.


67 posted on 01/03/2012 10:17:26 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
*grabs popcorn*

I think I will too, with an eggnog. Gotta do something to celebrate! Praise The LORD!!!

68 posted on 01/03/2012 10:26:23 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: sjeann

pingaling


69 posted on 01/03/2012 10:45:47 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: Danae

Thanks for the ping and here’s to hoping, looking to The One who nothing is impossible for.


70 posted on 01/03/2012 11:07:40 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: Nachum

The Judge ruled that the people of Georgia have standing...IIRC this is very significant. Other cases have been dismissed because of the standing issue.


71 posted on 01/03/2012 11:53:37 PM PST by hoosiermama (We need more Jobs.....Steve Jobs....entrepreneurs and creators.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Wow! I am really tempted to DUFU this thread.


72 posted on 01/04/2012 5:13:12 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: MMaschin
Since the Motion to Dismiss was denied. It appears that the court will need to determine 3 things. 1) Obama is over the age of 35. 2) Obama has lived in the US for more than 14 years. And, 3) Obama is a 'natural born Citizen'. There is no way around the fact that a US court WILL determine the legal meaning of the term 'natural born Citizen'.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of. For Decades I was involved in the gun rights movement, and the consensus during that time was that everyone was afraid to bring a case before the supreme court which argued the 2nd amendment was an INDIVIDUAL right and that it was ILLEGAL for states (or cities) to deprive a citizen of the right to keep and bear arms. The reason everyone was afraid to challenge any laws on this basis was because the court had too many liberals on it who would find that it was NOT an individual right, and thereby setting back Gun rights even further than it was at the time.

What I'm afraid is likely to happen is the same thing that happened in Wong Kim Ark. A misapplication of rejected English Common law of citizenship and another assertion that American Citizenship law is based on English Subject law.

The Lawyer types whom i've been arguing with keep asserting that "born citizenship" is the same thing as "natural born citizenship." (Which it is not.) The Fact is, it matters not what intelligent researched people have learned, it matters what those douche bag lawyer types believe, at least insofar as what such types are likely to decide.

The tendency of the legal system is to run in ruts created by the passage of other wagon loads of crap. (This is called "Precedent.") Because it is convenient and fits their predisposition, I will not be at all surprised to see the lawyer types (read that as Judges) decide that Wong Kim Ark is the controlling case, and that being born a citizen makes someone a "natural born citizen." It is a very hard thing for the legally trained to break away from widespread dogma and look at something objectively. I hope it occurs in this case, but I would not be surprised if the wagon rolls right back into those comfortable legal ruts.

73 posted on 01/04/2012 6:23:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: baa39

The answers to your questions are YES, YES, YES!
The problem is - they won’t rule on merits. They will drag it on until it is moot, or outright throw it out with outlandish lies!
If one judge had ruled on its merits, soetoro/obama/soebarkah wouldn’t have been installed in the WH!
There is no more justice as far as obama’s elig is concerned.
Voting him out is one way out, but then he and his thugs will steal the election again.

Need divine intervention!


74 posted on 01/04/2012 6:52:11 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: EDINVA

‘It’d be ironic, if he were kept off the GA ballot, to see Team Obama running to SCOTUS to determine his eligibility.’

Election is a state matter. If GA determines obama not elig., supreme court has no say.

However, Congress has the authority and duty to determine once and for all what article 2 natural born citizen is. But we all know they refuse to do it. Supreme court also ‘gave it a pass’ (Clarence Thomas hinted this. None of the cases was heard). So they are passing the bucks, and We the people have no standing, no voice...

I’d like to see obama take it to the supreme court! Let him tell the court that he did not know what he was doing when ‘resolving’ in his ‘resolution 511’ that McCain is a nbc because he was born to 2 US citizen parentS! (And that he himself, born to a Brit citizen father, is also a nbc!)
(unless he can convince the supremes to rule that anyone born to 1 US citizen parent is an nbc, disregarding dual citizenship and divided loyalty.)


75 posted on 01/04/2012 7:12:23 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: chrisnj

The states can determine how one gets on the ballot, but can a state administrative agency (this isn’t an Article III court) determine what ‘natural born Citizen’ meant to the Framers? It seems this judge can just require that BHO produce a certified US birth certificate, without getting into the NBC question, and he’s on the ballot.


76 posted on 01/04/2012 7:30:28 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: null and void

77 posted on 01/04/2012 7:49:34 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Wow. Is that an authentic copy?


78 posted on 01/04/2012 7:53:57 AM PST by jersey117 (.)
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To: Brown Deer

this ID image is a fake. Driven off of Thomas Lugert’s Columbia ID.

The card numbers are identical for them.

Simple Google search...


79 posted on 01/04/2012 9:37:04 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: LucyT
LOL they should of known better than to mess with Cain, Georgia don't play they are fixen to see the good old boy network.

Pop some popcorn, go get them Georgia!

80 posted on 01/04/2012 10:41:41 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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