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Iran threatens action if U.S. carrier returns: IRNA
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Posted on 01/03/2012 2:22:04 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Iran threatens action if U.S. carrier returns: IRNA Photo 4:49am EST

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will take action if a U.S. aircraft carrier which left the area because of Iranian naval exercises returns to the Gulf, the state news agency quoted army chief Ataollah Salehi as saying on Tuesday.

"Iran will not repeat its warning ... the enemy's carrier has been moved to the Sea of Oman because of our drill. I recommend and emphasize to the American carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf," Salehi told IRNA.

"I advise, recommend and warn them (the Americans) over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf because we are not in the habit of warning more than once," the semi-official Fars news agency quoted Salehi as saying.

Salehi did not name the aircraft carrier or give details of the action Iran might take if it returned.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; rodomontade
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To: SampleMan

Sure pal, you have all the answers it seems.


121 posted on 01/05/2012 9:46:03 AM PST by USAF80
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To: lentulusgracchus; USAF80; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

I just saw this interesting article about oil prices. Actually, it was the comments that I found worth looking at. Much info about the buying and selling of oil and gasoline and international impacts, including Iran. One question came to mind. Is it true that oil companies are artificially keeping prices high through export? Also, having heard that most XL Pipeline oil will be exported, how will we the people benefit except for some short term jobs? Please read the link before commenting.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-oil-dips-under-103-after-supply-data-2012-01-05?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts


122 posted on 01/05/2012 9:48:47 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: lentulusgracchus; USAF80; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

I just saw this interesting article about oil prices. Actually, it was the comments that I found worth looking at. Much info about the buying and selling of oil and gasoline and international impacts, including Iran. One question came to mind. Is it true that oil companies are artificially keeping prices high through export? Also, having heard that most XL Pipeline oil will be exported, how will we the people benefit except for some short term jobs? Please read the link before commenting.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-oil-dips-under-103-after-supply-data-2012-01-05?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts


123 posted on 01/05/2012 9:48:54 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Is it true that oil companies are artificially keeping prices high through export? Also, having heard that most XL Pipeline oil will be exported, how will we the people benefit except for some short term jobs?

Fuels ( Gasoline, Jet fuel, Diesel..) have recently been the U.S.A.'s most exported item. First time in over 40 years....I'm sorry though...I wouldn't call that "artificial". I call that business...supply and demand.

Did you know...unleaded fuel demand here in the States...has gone down since 2007?

Should American citizens be demanding that oil, and oil products produced here...stay here?

124 posted on 01/05/2012 9:59:46 AM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: USAF80
Sure pal, you have all the answers it seems.

To be honest, they are just the facts. That always makes it easier.

125 posted on 01/05/2012 10:05:47 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Well, it depends on where you get your info. Some of the things you mentioned are incorrect.


126 posted on 01/05/2012 10:30:15 AM PST by USAF80
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To: gleeaikin

What is also interesting is that the Saudi Riyal stays the same regardless of what the rest of the financial markets are doing.


127 posted on 01/05/2012 10:34:04 AM PST by USAF80
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To: gleeaikin

Would like to Thank You for always bringing me to interesting threads. Much appreciation.


128 posted on 01/05/2012 10:44:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: USAF80
Well, it depends on where you get your info. Some of the things you mentioned are incorrect.

Like which things?

The war began when Iraq invaded Iran on 22 September 1980. I've never seen this disputed anywhere, not even by Saddam.

Exactly what power did Kuwait have to force Iraq to repay its loans? Are we to believe that Saddam was forced to invade Kuwait in order to prevent being turned over a collection agency?

During the Iran–Iraq War, Iraqi oil drilling operations in Rumaila declined while Kuwait's operations increased. In 1989, Iraq accused Kuwait of using "advanced drilling techniques" to exploit oil from its share of the Rumaila field. Iraq estimated that US$2.4 billion worth of Iraqi oil was "stolen" by Kuwait and demanded compensation. Kuwait dismissed the accusations as a false Iraqi ploy to justify military action against it. Several foreign firms working in the Rumaila field also dismissed Iraq's slant-drilling claims as a "smokescreen to disguise Iraq's more ambitious intentions".
On July 25, 1990, only a few days before the Iraqi invasion, OPEC officials said that Kuwait and United Arab Emirates had agreed to a proposal to limit daily oil output to 1.5 million barrels, thus potentially settling differences over oil policy between Kuwait and Iraq. At the time of the settlement, more than 100,000 Iraqi troops were deployed along Iraq-Kuwait border and American officials expressed little indication of decline in tensions despite the OPEC settlement.

129 posted on 01/05/2012 11:58:29 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: gleeaikin; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

No, but the recession was artificially created by Zero’s policies. The drop in US demand added to a growing domestic (and/or Canadian) supply means the price overseas will make it worthwhile to export. That’s called earning a living. Often one sees silly comments — even around here — that the US doesn’t buy much crude from Supplier X, therefore an interruption of oil from Supplier X isn’t the reason for a spike in the price we pay for crude. Yes, there are people that dumb and/or dishonest.

The price of crude had fallen earlier in his administration — a gift from his Saudi masters — and since then bounced back to just over $100 a barrel. As there are 42 gallons per bbl, the crude costs alone have been near $2.50 a gallon for quite some time. For that, blame OPEC.

Any artificiality in the price of oil is due to OPEC and no one else.


130 posted on 01/05/2012 6:13:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv; no-to-illegals; FARS; All

Here is a long article on impact of China, Japan and Europe cutting back on Iran oil purchases. Price of oil going up. Plan to fill my tank tomorrow. Also lots of interesting comments. Saudis promise to make up shortfall.

http://news.yahoo.com/screws-tighten-iran-big-buyers-shun-oil-015919154.html


131 posted on 01/05/2012 9:31:51 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Thanks gleeaikin for the pings. The mullahs and their boy (unwonder - the un seem to like him) may have taken a bite that left no marks and is about to leave them (mullahs and unwonder) hungry. Would be nice to see them on Iranian street corners with their hands out instead of seeing them fleece the Iranian population.
132 posted on 01/06/2012 5:19:28 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: gleeaikin
The price of oil may be artificially high, but as Leon Panetta recently stated: “The U.S. cannot and will not allow the Iranians to produce a nuclear weapon.” There is a conflict coming just as in pre December 1941. The Europeans and the Chinese are willing to go along with an Iranian strike so long as the U.S. guarantees a stable economic future.
133 posted on 01/06/2012 7:15:59 AM PST by mulder1 ("The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.")
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To: SampleMan
Well, I got my info from a reputable source not online.
134 posted on 01/06/2012 11:46:18 AM PST by USAF80
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To: USAF80
Well, I got my info from a reputable source not online.

The facts that I posted are found in many, many places. You may be confused by the adage that finding something on the Internet doesn't make it true; however, neither does appearing on the Internet make something false.

Besides your unnamed "reputable source", exactly what do you have to disprove any part of what I've stated to be the facts? I've given you ample opportunity, and you haven't provided anything.

Let's do it by the numbers:
1. Did Saddam invade Iran on his own and without due provocation? Yes.
2. Did Saddam borrow (BORROW) money from many lenders including Kuwait to fund his war? Yes.
3. Did Kuwait commit any acts of war against Iraq before Saddam invaded Kuwait? No.
4. Has any evidence ever come to light to support Saddam's assertion of slant drilling? No.

Maybe you can give me a telephone number for your "credible source in the Middle East" ?

The world is chock full of people and accompanying assertions. You've made some very big assertions with absolutely nothing to back them up except an unnamed source's assertions. Color me skeptical.

135 posted on 01/06/2012 1:29:31 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Oh well you can stay a skeptic. This is a public forum so there is only so much info that can be shared.


136 posted on 01/09/2012 10:05:42 AM PST by USAF80
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