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To: TigersEye; MestaMachine; LucyT; little jeremiah; Erik Latranyi; thecodont
"Very nicely done."

TY, but from your previous post:

"There goes the "we were letting guns randomly "walk" into Mexico to see where they went" lie. It was a quid pro quo with the Sinaloa international terrorist drug cartel."

"0bama, Holder and the whole lot of them are sponsors of terrorism, murder, drug trafficking, human slavery, money laundering and arms trafficking with intent to undermine a sovereign friendly nation."

[emphasis added... because I vociferously think this as well and have so posted! You and I are in the minority on this.]
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Setting aside your last point, the one that I emphasized, for the moment...

Some thoughts for the thread's reflection and critique:

Early into my understanding of Fast and Furious, I suspected that the motives of the crime reached far beyond the attempt to outlaw guns. That may be the "face" of the Obama adm's public rationalization---but ONLY because it is the "sexy," convenient, PC face.

The Obama adm ALWAYS tries to kill as many birds with one stone as possible---and the bird they publicize to kill is rarely the chief bird they are aiming for.

As has been posted on this thread (see post 26), this may backfire on us---BUT

Obama and the Hezbollah Terrorist

and

Outrage In Iraq

Hezbollah Terrorist Handed Over to Iraqis by U.S. May Face Only Minor Criminal Charge
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Not to mention:

"Sinaloa drug cartel was sending elite assassins to train on weapons and explosives with Islamic radicals in Iran.44 The article reported that this travel was facilitated through Venezuela, courtesy of the direct airline flights established between the two countries, and that some of the operatives even used Venezuelan travel documents.45 This mutually beneficial arrangement allowed the assassins to receive training in guerilla tactics, while the extremists gained entry into Latin America with its relative ease of access to the Untied States.

The article went so far as to claim that some extremist group members were purchasing marriages to local Venezuelan and Mexican nationals in order to take on Latino surnames, increasing ease of entry into the United States.46 Taken together, these reports indicate extensive associations between Iran, Hezbollah and drug cartels, highlighting the potential for Hezbollah to utilize these groups’ existing support networks and infrastructure.

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It is a known fact that Hezbollah is working with MANY cartels. Why is the media emphasis on Zetas alone?

The Sinaloa Cartel is a global criminal organization that moves up to two-thirds of drugs into the United States and operates in 52 countries.

The Obama regime is brilliant (Obama being merely the useful figurehead)---a fascist oligarchy criminally operating like queen bees...worker bees firmly in tow.

Untethered from ethics, morality, and law...

I am not optimistic.

Having said that, I forwarded my post to someone who is in regular contact with a successful federal prosecutor, now also a respected journalist. Although not in his area of expertise, I am hoping he might weigh in on the legalities of the last link I cited in my post:

Gunwalker: Justice Dept. Violated U.S. Laws Beyond Those Being Investigated

I wish Mark Levin and other legal experts who have the public's ear and respect would do the same.

I am also curious if Issa has this statute in mind.

We can't defer hope to the next election; however, GOP candidates have a bully pulpit few of our conservative leaders are willing to use. Will any candidate be willing to aim for the jugular? I doubt it. The outcry will have to come from a conservative grassroots groundswell.

IMO, the factual evidence for a big-picture conspiracy is beginning to come into view---of which F & F was only one important thread that unraveled by the death of Brian Terry, and now that unraveled thread threatens to unravel the whole fabric of the conspiracy. Is it any wonder that F & F is depicted as just a "botched" operation inspired by misguided and errant underlings who only deserve "reassignment" as penalty for their keystone-cops plan?

109 posted on 12/31/2011 2:44:34 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Real quick ‘cause V is banging pots and pans already. Hold onto this post. Should have the new TM up sometime tomorrow.

Happy New year Everyone!


110 posted on 12/31/2011 3:01:01 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: thouworm
...with intent to undermine a sovereign friendly nation."

[emphasis added... because I vociferously think this as well and have so posted! You and I are in the minority on this.]

I suspect that more people than have posted that idea agree with it or are at least open to more evidence of it. You have provided quite a bit more in that respect. A good deal more than I was aware of.

The Obama adm ALWAYS tries to kill as many birds with one stone as possible---and the bird they publicize to kill is rarely the chief bird they are aiming for.

I couldn't agree more with that and have seen it in other administration policies and actions. There is no good reason to think that F&F and other policies and programs should be viewed as having only one goal or desired effect. Pushing gun control just isn't credible as the main reason for F&F, Castaway and other similar programs revealed so far. I have no doubt that they would use them as much as possible for that though.

113 posted on 12/31/2011 4:46:11 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: thouworm
Here are three new threads that tie in with your work.

Complicity With Evil

Hizballah Fundraising and Operations in the US and Latin America

Report: Hizbullah Laundered Drug Money in US Banks

115 posted on 12/31/2011 5:20:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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. . . . Back to the thread, - check out thouworm's # 109 , then # 113 , # 115 .

Happy New Year, Everyone.

117 posted on 12/31/2011 5:57:44 PM PST by LucyT (~Happy Happy New Year~)
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To: thouworm; TigersEye; MestaMachine; LucyT; little jeremiah; Erik Latranyi; thecodont

Has anyone looked for any connection between Jack Wheeler’s murder and this obvious illegal operation cross-border?


119 posted on 12/31/2011 7:27:08 PM PST by SatinDoll (/O FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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