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Nice try. Of course, if America stops sending arms to the Arabs, the PRC will just sit on its hands and stay out of it, just like the USSR did back in the 1950s./s
1 posted on 12/28/2011 10:52:30 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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I think it is time for Rand to fill out the commitment paperwork.


36 posted on 12/29/2011 2:03:05 AM PST by JIM O
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Then we are in serious trouble if Paul is the most pro-Israel candidate.


41 posted on 12/29/2011 4:46:25 AM PST by Lady Heron
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43 posted on 12/29/2011 5:10:11 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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I thought that Obama already staked out the claim of being the most Pro-Israel candidate? With friends like these, Israel is in deep doo-doo.


44 posted on 12/29/2011 5:27:03 AM PST by jim_trent
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No, he isn’t pro-Israel, and his positions on foreign aid are irrelevant.

On numerous occasions he’s addressed the “problem” of Jewish neocons and the Likud Party control of the neocon tainted Bush administration. Including on the floor of the House. That’s not pro-Israel, it’s conspiracy lunacy.

He’s stated that the Mossad, like the CIA, may have been behind the 1993 Trade Center Bombing. Not pro-Israel, conspiracy nonsense. Like his contention that GWB was pleased by 9/11, also libelous. It seems to me as a Government official he has an obligation to make the facts known, and turn them over to law enforcement

He does acknowledge Jews lived in the region a couple millennia ago. That’s nice, I guess it’s a plus, though it’s a pretty widely accepted fact

He describes the history of Zionism as a movement of Orthodox Jews (Herzl would be surprised as would have most of the "Orthodox" of the day) who wanted to separate secular European Jews from the culture they had assimilated into so well. Secular European Jews fully integrated and accepted into late 19th century Europe, like Alfred Dreyfus. 19th and 20th century European Jews would be surprised to find they were so well accepted and integrated. Is Paul stupid, or a revisionist, I don’t know.

Somehow his “history” of Israel and Zionism skips from the late 19th century to 1948 and the evil UN. Nothing important happened in the interim I guess, WWI, WWII, Turkey’s defeat, the Mandate period, economic development of Palestine (that’s what the future Jewish state was done), movement of Arabs to the region for economic reasons, no San Remo, no partitioning an Arab state for Jordon, no pogroms, the Mufti, he even forgets the little dust up caused by the Reich. All insignificant, I guess. Not worth assessing whether a defective version of history makes him pro-Israel.

Simply skip forward to 1948 when the UN lets Israel take the Arabs land. By successfully defending themselves from genocide I guess.

Quite telling is the Paul experience meeting a young palestinian attending school in the US. Her story about how her family was thrown off land in her family for centuries touched his heart. Just to build Israeli settlements. He’s a sentimental guy, but this is the Arab version of history.

Did I mention this meeting happened in the early 1950s, clear proof that Ron considers Tel Aviv a settlement. Like San Antonio I guess. But what the heck, it was just a group of people taking land from others on the specious arguement that G-d told them to do it. Classic pro-Arab fairy tale from the Congressman, not a pro-Israel position.

For anyone interested in learning more about the conflict, Paul recommends Jimmy Carter's Apartheid work. It's on the Code Pink suggested reading list too. Largely discredited in pro-Israel circles.

The idea that Paul is pro-Israel is absurd, he has a clear anti-Israel mindset. Whether he’s an antisemite is a different issue not worth getting into. Because it’s an opinion, and irrelevant given his willingness to associate with world class Holocaust deniers, Jewhaters and racists. That alone should be a disqualifier for high office, as it should have been for the current occupant of the White House.

Interestingly like Obama’s racist baggage Paul’s has been known here on FR for years, it’s a shame more people didn’t pay attention, preventing a potential embarrassment for whoever the Republican candidate is, and depriving Obama supporters of an effective issue.


45 posted on 12/29/2011 5:29:10 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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In other news, it turns out that Hitler was only providing free showers, when something went horribly wrong...


46 posted on 12/29/2011 5:59:50 AM PST by Tzfat
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Ron Paul: "I Am the Most Pro-Israel Candidate."

Yes, he is right up there with Hitler in his love for Israel and the Jews.

Ron Paul is an antiSemitic NUT!

52 posted on 12/29/2011 7:20:07 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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