Posted on 12/28/2011 10:52:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5
Edited on 12/28/2011 11:18:38 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Then we are in serious trouble if Paul is the most pro-Israel candidate.
I am 100% with you on that. We have got to form local alliances with oppressed Christian communities, oppressed Muslim minorities such as the Kurds and soon-to-be-oppressed Alawites, Baluchis, Marsh Arabs, and above all else non-Muslim countries such as South Sudan and India. We should form our own organization either within or outside the UN: The Alliance of Near and Far Eastern Minorities (ANFEM) and form strong military, commercial and diplomatic ties.
I thought that Obama already staked out the claim of being the most Pro-Israel candidate? With friends like these, Israel is in deep doo-doo.
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No, he isn’t pro-Israel, and his positions on foreign aid are irrelevant.On numerous occasions he’s addressed the “problem” of Jewish neocons and the Likud Party control of the neocon tainted Bush administration. Including on the floor of the House. That’s not pro-Israel, it’s conspiracy lunacy.
He’s stated that the Mossad, like the CIA, may have been behind the 1993 Trade Center Bombing. Not pro-Israel, conspiracy nonsense. Like his contention that GWB was pleased by 9/11, also libelous. It seems to me as a Government official he has an obligation to make the facts known, and turn them over to law enforcement
He does acknowledge Jews lived in the region a couple millennia ago. That’s nice, I guess it’s a plus, though it’s a pretty widely accepted fact
He describes the history of Zionism as a movement of Orthodox Jews (Herzl would be surprised as would have most of the "Orthodox" of the day) who wanted to separate secular European Jews from the culture they had assimilated into so well. Secular European Jews fully integrated and accepted into late 19th century Europe, like Alfred Dreyfus. 19th and 20th century European Jews would be surprised to find they were so well accepted and integrated. Is Paul stupid, or a revisionist, I don’t know.
Somehow his “history” of Israel and Zionism skips from the late 19th century to 1948 and the evil UN. Nothing important happened in the interim I guess, WWI, WWII, Turkey’s defeat, the Mandate period, economic development of Palestine (that’s what the future Jewish state was done), movement of Arabs to the region for economic reasons, no San Remo, no partitioning an Arab state for Jordon, no pogroms, the Mufti, he even forgets the little dust up caused by the Reich. All insignificant, I guess. Not worth assessing whether a defective version of history makes him pro-Israel.
Simply skip forward to 1948 when the UN lets Israel take the Arabs land. By successfully defending themselves from genocide I guess.
Quite telling is the Paul experience meeting a young palestinian attending school in the US. Her story about how her family was thrown off land in her family for centuries touched his heart. Just to build Israeli settlements. He’s a sentimental guy, but this is the Arab version of history.
Did I mention this meeting happened in the early 1950s, clear proof that Ron considers Tel Aviv a settlement. Like San Antonio I guess. But what the heck, it was just a group of people taking land from others on the specious arguement that G-d told them to do it. Classic pro-Arab fairy tale from the Congressman, not a pro-Israel position.
For anyone interested in learning more about the conflict, Paul recommends Jimmy Carter's Apartheid work. It's on the Code Pink suggested reading list too. Largely discredited in pro-Israel circles.
The idea that Paul is pro-Israel is absurd, he has a clear anti-Israel mindset. Whether he’s an antisemite is a different issue not worth getting into. Because it’s an opinion, and irrelevant given his willingness to associate with world class Holocaust deniers, Jewhaters and racists. That alone should be a disqualifier for high office, as it should have been for the current occupant of the White House.
Interestingly like Obama’s racist baggage Paul’s has been known here on FR for years, it’s a shame more people didn’t pay attention, preventing a potential embarrassment for whoever the Republican candidate is, and depriving Obama supporters of an effective issue.
In other news, it turns out that Hitler was only providing free showers, when something went horribly wrong...
That would be the drug addicts, recreational pot smokers, retards, military haters, bigots, racists, and liberal college students part of Iowa. Period.
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You may not like Paul’s support..but that latest poll FOX News had this morning where Paul is leading was polled Registered Republicans..I think with a track of voting Pub.
If you were in a position to see some of the supporters..you would really be shaking your head and in a quandry.
Where I live..the youngest Paul supporter is 32 the oldest 90 and no college kids or kids period.
Most of the Paul’s supporters voted for Obama in 08. If Paul runs 3rd party, he will pull votes from Obama. ;)
I’m only reporting on my area..don’t know about other voters in other parts of this state.
Ron Paul is certifiable. He needs a tin hat himself.
BTW, there’s a plausible argument that the US aid to the USSR had the result of prolonging WW2, delivering Eastern Europe and China to Communism and the root cause for the Cold/Hot Wars of the 20th Century. One would need to review the History of Military aid and Treaty entanglements especially from the Hapsburg Empire/Europe and as far back as Alexander the Great to even began to understand the interaction of Cold War strategies in the Mid East.
A good starting point IMO is the forth coming Herbert Hoover epic book, “Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover’s Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath’.
Excellent excerpt here: http://www.imaginativeconservative.org/2011/11/freedom-betrayed-herbert-hoovers-secret.html#more
Yes, he is right up there with Hitler in his love for Israel and the Jews.
Ron Paul is an antiSemitic NUT!
Doubleplusgood!
Thank you, Eleutheria5, for cutting through the Paultard BS.
Who was that anchor-woman he was spring boarding off of in the video, anyway? Did he get her from central casting?
LOL Never saw her before.
Pauly sounds and acts like Barney Fife. Too bad Don Knots is dead, or he’d get to play him in the movie.
He is pro Jew. He even has a special plan for them. He will RElocate them to camps so nothing happens to them. it will have a lot of protection and free showers
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