Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Fallout

Radiation Public Health Project ^ | Dec 19, 2011 | Joseph J. Mangano

[yup2394871293]

Nothing damn curious about it if the numbers normally fluctuate by large amounts. No reason why they shouldn’t.

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Beautiful People who live in Malibu keel over shortly after reaching their ski lodges in Aspen, Vail, or Park City

Probably. But not from radiation :)

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Good info. Thanks.

[exDemMom]

You’re welcome.

[justa-hairyape]

The hard core true Progresso's are knee-jerk anti-nuclear, but Obama is a 100 % crony from Chicago Illinois. He is in the back pocket of GE. He supports Nuclear Energy. One of the blessed green technologies, if you buy that green energy garbage. Here is a current graph of beta radiation from Olympia Washington. Nice and clean.

Now Idaho Falls has been showing recent slightly elevated levels, but for some reason radiation from Japan seemed to be concentrated in Boise Idaho back when they montiored it during March. No idea of the source for these current spikes.

And Phoenix has been having some very strange spikes. Source unknown and even it it was from Japan, Obama has muzzled our media, so you wont here it reported.

At any rate, there have been recent readings of Iodine-131 in various locations of Japan since September. Personally know someone who is visiting with family near Tokyo right now. Most of the Japanese realize their government has been lying from day 1 and they do not trust them one bit. A lot of Japanese are doing their own monitoring.

[Dogbert41]

They should have stayed out of the fallout, man!

[nobdysfool]

Sounds to me like the logical fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc, or "after this, therefore because of this". Another way to say it is, "since some people died a few days after the Fukushima disaster, it must be the disaster that caused their deaths"....

[NoPrisoners]

The worst stuff, like I-131, have short half-lives. I-131 has a half-life of around 8 days, thus I can't imagine that we received anything significant. As for longer-lasting isotopes, perhaps a little story? One of my professors had a good sized chunk of uranium ore stuffed in the top drawer of his desk for decades. He was crazy, but never developed cancer. ;) For grins, you might be interested in a real-time rad map of the US.

[dragnet2]

The highest detected levels in the U.S. were as follows Boise, ID (390); Kansas City (200); Salt Lake City (190); Jacksonville, FL (150); Olympia, WA (125); and Boston, MA (92).

Glad I live in the southwest!

I have a friend in Boise Idaho, and lately after speaking with him on the phone, I noted he started stuttering, and seemed to babble incoherently about his teeth being loose. Kept talking about his wife's hair becoming like an SOS brillo pad.

[HeartlandOfAmerica]

RPHP was established as a non-profit 501 (c)(3) organization in 1995, after many years of work by its founders--Jay Gould and Ernest Sternglass--as part of other nonprofit environmental and public policy organizations.

Where in the world did you find this group at???? Sheesh. Think you need to go back to DU.

Just read their press release page a few minutes and you can see that this Mangano character is a rabid anti-nuclear zealot hiding behind a non-profit.

Buy a web domain and suddenly you speak with the voice of God!

Sheesh. You're just spreading lefty propaganda with this one.

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lol

[yldstrk]

I call BS. This is just frickin nonsense

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Terrific graphs. Where did you find them? Link please, justa.

[yldstrk]

Yeah well, so is sunshine. And as a friend used to say, “You have to die from something.”

[Styria]

This means that, at the distance from the US to Japan, if there were any radiation levels high enough to cause harm to US persons, the radiation levels in Japan would be high enough to render Japan completely lifeless.

One last consideration might be the fallout of radioactive particles thrown into the air. To an extent, the concentration of radioactive particles obeys the inverse-square law.

That first only holds for ionizing radiation. Any particles produced function themselves as point sources, with their own new distance, where they are distributed. That distribution follows wind and other patterns. There is NO remote "to an extent" that the radioactive particles were deposited in circular lines of equal density thousands of miles from Japan. At best they would be in highly eccentric ellipses.

You can't really argue that particles didn't arrive in the US or that the US isn't a likely place for particulate from Japan to go. But what these guys are trying to do is show causation, and that's where they're totally irresponsible and can be destroyed for it (arguing about proximity lets them beg the question that the particles, once proximate, actually are dangerous). And in my midnight, late-for-bedtime laziness, I'm referencing UpToDate rather than your PubMed search earlier. =)

390 picocuries per liter of water in Boise. Compare this with the fixed-dose options for radioiodine for Grave's disease of 5, 10, or 15 millicuries. This will induce hypothyroidism in 12-18 weeks (yet they cite CDC statistics for 0 to just 14 weeks). And even this has a potential failure rate. Sure iodine is concentrated in the thyroid, but if you took just the 5 mCi pill and distributed it in 40 liters of body water, you're looking at 125,000 picocuries. They're nowhere close, and how many liters of their koolaid would you have to drink to get there?

If 14,000 more people were dying from myxedema coma, the news would be all over it...

[justa-hairyape]

Those are from the US government, EPA Radnet. Will see if I can find a good link. Here are the image links you can store as bookmarks for now.

Olympia Washington

Idaho Falls

Phoenix

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thanks. I managed to find Spokane at Radnet. Air quality was awful here for two weeks, you almost needed a knife to cut a hole in the air to walk thru.

[justa-hairyape]

You can make your own Beta Gross Count graphs on the following link. You have to play with the parameters a couple of times to see the graph.

RadNet Query Builder

The following has a clickable image and list for Gamma Energies and other parameters.

EPA's RadNet Data

For links to clean charts you can use the Progresso blog link below. This guy however supported the OWS gang and was completely duped into believing it was a true revolutionary movement.

Boise, ID Real Time Radiation Monitoring

[exDemMom]

There is NO remote "to an extent" that the radioactive particles were deposited in circular lines of equal density thousands of miles from Japan.

I do realize that the analogy is somewhat limited, but it was good enough for the point I wanted to make, which is that any particles small enough to become airborne and travel for long distances will end up being quite dispersed. Of course, there are a number of forces acting on particles that simply don't have an effect on radiative emissions.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

#44 MikeNJ:

You have helped to undercover a red hornets nest. This so-called International Journal of Health Services is headed by a Castroite red doctor named Vincente Navarro. Marxist agitator Frances Fox Piven is on the Board and I saw another name of a Communist Party USA member or two, either on the Board but definitely authors of IJHS articles on “Race and Class re Heart Transplants”, Stefanie Woolhandler and David Himmelstein.

They are colleagues of old CPUSA member, now Democratic Socialists of America member, marxist Dr. Quentin Young.
Young, once the head of a CPUSA front known as the Medical Committee for Human Rights (MCHR), became the left’s leading advocate of a universal health insurance plan, and head a red/leftist-loaded group known as Physicians for a National Health Plan (Woolhander, Himmelstein and Mark Almsberg), to name a few.

Quentin Young is the unofficial national health insurance advisor to a guy in the neighborhood, Barack Obama. There should be a tremendous amoung of information on all of them at www.keywiki.org, search for “Physicians for a National Health Plan”, “Quentin Young”, and “Barack Obama”.

The Fukishima article is an attempt to destroy support for nuclear energy, which Obama is systematically destroying here in the US, along with the coal and oil industries, thus making us depend on his fraudulent “Green power” schemes and con jobs, as well as on foreign oil.

thanks Mike NJ for opening this can of red scum. You have done FR readers and loyal AMericans a great favor by exposing these red bastards.

There will be more on this - you can bet the bank (if it is solvent) on it!