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Discarded embers likely cause of Connecticut blaze that killed 5
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/27/us/connecticut-christmas-fire/?iref=obinsite ^

Posted on 12/28/2011 1:07:48 PM PST by angcat

The fire appears to have been caused by hot fireplace ashes and embers, which had been discarded," said Barry Callahan, the chief fire marshal in Stamford, Connecticut.

He said the fire that engulfed the large waterfront Victorian home was accidental, according to preliminary findings, but an investigating is ongoing.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: Third Person

Correction: “to move much more rapidly through a house.”


21 posted on 12/28/2011 3:57:44 PM PST by Third Person
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To: ExCTCitizen

My sister almost burned our lake property (and the neighbor’s as well) when she dumped the ashes from the barbeque grill into the woods. They were still hot from the dinner the night before (probably about 20+ hours).

Luckily it caught fire while she was still loading up her car and she was there to put it out. I use a couple of old metal cat-food cans, add some water, and sit for a week before I toss the ashes when I clean out the fireplace.


22 posted on 12/28/2011 4:04:20 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: juliej; qwerty1234; montag813
NO: the point of my Post is that they were living in East Village, for Christ sake, and were safer there than in ritzy Connecticut! Get a grip and read. The girls were also closer to their father in NYC. All that glitters is not gold. Also, the terrible Skakel/Kennedy murder took place in Greenwich. Wealthy Ct is a hotbed of “upscale” crime.

You certainly do have a way of mixing your envy with your "angst."


23 posted on 12/28/2011 4:06:56 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: livius

The contractor made multiple errors of both judgement and protocol. Because of those errors five people are dead.

I would hope he’d lose more than his business.


24 posted on 12/28/2011 4:09:38 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Agamemnon

Get A GRIP! YOU COULD NOT PAY ME TO LIVE OVER THERE. I know all about what goes on in Greenwich although the locals would not like to admit it. Now, have a nice day.


25 posted on 12/28/2011 4:44:53 PM PST by juliej
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To: Third Person
this is a horrible mistake and I see no reason for anyone to go to jail...what will that prove?..

however, I could never look that guy in the face again......let alone live with him....

this will haunt him for his entire life....

26 posted on 12/28/2011 5:11:32 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

Imagine how the girls’ real father must feel.


27 posted on 12/28/2011 5:14:37 PM PST by juliej
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To: Frank_2001

As I understanad it - no firewalls between floors - found in older, not newer homes - creates a chimney like effect.


28 posted on 12/28/2011 5:58:35 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

understanad = understand


29 posted on 12/28/2011 6:01:42 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: juliej
Get A GRIP! YOU COULD NOT PAY ME TO LIVE OVER THERE. I know all about what goes on in Greenwich although the locals would not like to admit it. Now, have a nice day.

I live near Greenwich. Greenwich is a very nice place. Lots of nice people there too.

"Know all about what goes on in Greenwich," do you?

Let's just put it to you this way: The thing most residents would likely be willing to admit is that no one has to pay them to live in Greenwich, though many who live there are certainly paid alot for what they do in their professions (so they can afford to live there), few if any have any regrets about living there, and that it is likely that someone like you couldn't afford to live there.

For all of what you think you know about what any "locals" would supposedly like or not like to admit, I have my doubts that you even know anyone from Greenwich, else you'd know better.

"Green" isn't a pretty trait.


30 posted on 12/28/2011 8:05:21 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: silverleaf

That’s awful, they had and older child and twins too.

I don’t know how that Ct. woman is going to survive, mentally. She lost her children and her parents. On Christmas night.

If something like that happened to me you could find me UNDER the bed with a bottle of whiskey, that’s where I would be. I really don’t think I could handle it.

It’s not clear what cause the Australia fire, the article seems to mention an explosion, could it have been gas?

And what’s with the 1/2 hour wait for an ambulance?


31 posted on 12/28/2011 11:24:09 PM PST by jocon307
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To: livius

“He put them in “a bag” and left them leaning against the wall of the house.”

Who does that? Why would anyone do that?

I grew up in an apartment in NYC and even I know not to do that.

Don’t people have metal boxes that they use for fireplace ashes? And why would you be rushing to clear out ashes from a fireplace anyway? Shouldn’t they just stay there for a long bit to burn out?


32 posted on 12/28/2011 11:36:09 PM PST by jocon307
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To: angcat

Who the hell doesn’t let the embers die overnight? And then he puts them in a bag?

Does anyone still get the wholec”ash can” thing any more?


33 posted on 12/29/2011 3:05:05 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: jocon307

Amen.....WHO does that??? Kids would probably know not to do that.


34 posted on 12/29/2011 3:20:59 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: angcat
The University of Vermont basketball coach and his family was woken up yesterday by a construction worker who was yelling that their house was on fire. Apparently they had cleaned out their fireplace and put the ashes in a paper bag and left it on the back porch. Fortunately no one was injured and the house was not too extensively damaged but seriously how stupid can people be?

http://www.wcax.com/story/16398832/construction-worker-saves-burlington-family-from-fire

35 posted on 12/29/2011 3:28:36 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Agamemnon

You are a real jerk! I know more about Greenwich than you think and it is not the little paradise you would like people to believe it is. You have turned an article about a terrible fire into a personal attack on me. Yes, I think you are GREEN with envy that some people know how to take care of themselves. I also think you lie.


36 posted on 12/29/2011 5:54:49 AM PST by juliej
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To: angcat

latest quote from the Putz:
“We’re trying to stay positive”

positive about what? The fact she thought her humper went upstairs to get her kids out and he says they “slipped away” from him and ran back into the flames?
uh huh

he is worse than a putz, he is an asshole and most probably, a liar with no emotional investment in her family
and no conept of the horror of losing a child

There is NO POSITIVE


37 posted on 12/29/2011 7:38:26 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: silverleaf

He never did go back to get those children did he? How evil is he? He lied and said they ran away from him.


38 posted on 12/29/2011 8:38:31 AM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: juliej
You are a real jerk! I know more about Greenwich than you think and it is not the little paradise you would like people to believe it is. You have turned an article about a terrible fire into a personal attack on me. Yes, I think you are GREEN with envy that some people know how to take care of themselves. I also think you lie.

You "think," you "think."

Actually, my brother was born in Greenwich at the time my dad was doing his residency at Greenwich Hospital. While we don't live there now we still have quite a number of friends who still live there. Still have cousins living in Riverside, just down Indian Field Road -- you know, where the yacht club is (or, then again, maybe you don't.)

I lived in Stamford on my own at one time as well, know Shippan Point neighborhood where this tragedy happened though I lived on Lawn Ave. (also on southeast side of Stamford) and off of Newfield Ave. (Northwest side) too.

As I said, I still live nearby (New Canaan, CT, not far from Ann Coulter, actually), and if you knew anything at all about Greenwich you wouldn't have written what you did. But I'll remind you that while the story was about somthing that happened in Stamford, it was you who took the story to Greenwich and it was in this context that your covetous side became rudely apparent.

Envy is a trait that will eat you from the inside out, Julie, dear. It starts with your brain, and typically moves to your heart in short order. Sadly in your case it appears to have progressed somewhat further.


39 posted on 12/29/2011 9:05:41 AM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

You continue to prove your jerkiness. You made the comments about ME, which shows your ENVY. Green is not a color you should wear, dear.


40 posted on 12/29/2011 9:08:21 AM PST by juliej
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