LOL. Do you even now recognize the irony of using that tired old rejoinder?
This nation was formed by rebellion. Seemed to work just fine then.
To paraphrase your cliche, if "this nation" were comprised of the same mettle as what worked "just fine then" then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Other than the unprecedented catastrophe in 1865, what gives you any indication that rebellions within mature, corrupt countries turn out well for liberty and freedom? I rattled off several that didn't. Can you name a couple that did?
“Other than the unprecedented catastrophe in 1865, what gives you any indication that rebellions within mature, corrupt countries turn out well for liberty and freedom?”
By your own statement our own Revolution turned out well.