Posted on 12/27/2011 10:01:50 PM PST by neverdem
Yes, Barack Obama brings added definition to the word disaster, as his presidency has overseen more people trapped below the poverty line than ever in modern history.
But is 2012 about defeating Obama only?
Paul Ryan doesnt think so. The Wisconsin Republicans says that the eventual GOP nominee must make the 2012 election much broader in scope.
[The election] is a referendum on the American idea, not on Barack Obama and his handling of the economy, Ryan told HUMAN EVENTS. It is, Do you want to reclaim the founding principles that made us exceptional and great, an opportunity society with a circumscribed safety net? Or do you want the cradle-to-grave welfare state?
Its really a choice of two futures, Ryan added. We owe it to the country to let them choose what kind of country they want to be and what kind of people they want to be.
Ryan says that if the Republican challenger makes the election about the conflicting vision for America, then upon victory there would be a clear mandate to plow forward with the kind of large, structural changes that are needed to keep us free and prosperous.
We will be better stewards of the economy than he will be, is an insufficient campaign platform, Ryan stressed. This is the most important election in our lifetime, no matter what generation you come from.
(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...
NO!
America is right now too stupid to make this about what America is defined as...the referendum IS ON OBAMA, not America. Let me explain.
A very close relative told me America is already socialist and that’s ok; I mean, we have social security. This is a college-educated person who said this. I’m afraid if we don’t make this about Obama, we risk leaving him in power.
On the highway to hell!
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- Yup
- and Hussein Junior has a free TV Op every day - courtesy of the leftie media
I also see very little critism of Hussein-II on FR recently
Many on FR now are Koz-Kids I’d say
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Yeah, he can go on TV any time he pleases. I groan when I see him come on and wonder who actually watches him...
Guess we’re all more wrapped up in ‘who’ our candidates are right now, but still see what Obama’s doing. I look on Drudge many times a day for headlines.
Many newbies get zotted after they post their drivel, lol
Many ‘oldies’ do - also
Indeed it is. We will not survive another term of the Kenyan Marxist. Hell, it'll be hard enough to turn things around with a loyal American in the White House.
I’d be preaching to that thirty percent who can be swayed by a well-thought out argument. Obviously, political ads can only be effective with a small percentage. The Dems will always get their third, and Pubbies will always get their third. It’s the other third, (indys, whomever) that I want to persuade.
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I’d say over 85% have neither the comprehension or interest to actually find out what is going on outside of CBS/NBC/ABC TV
The millions of kids today grow up seeing Hussein Junior in the White Hut (and NAZI “10K a day” Pelosi) every day knocking Republicans - and they take it in like little NAZIS as total truth:
“The rich have to pay their FAIR SHARE and give the MIDDLE CLASS a FAIR chance.....”
- The Entitlement Society approaches a majority of voters
- Add no Voter ID and Voter Fraud and Illegal Aliens and ACORN and the New Barack Pansies.....
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Strangely most things I mention are known by others who are not on the internet and someone told me that ‘we’ are considered the ‘fringe’ group. It was said in jest, but seriously meant I believe......... ;(
Sometimes things we get all aggitated about turn out not to be a big deal. But, we still know a lot more.
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Well - All those not informed about candidates and who and what they really are -
The gave America Hopey-Changey and barackruped the USA -
They just might do it again -
When they complain they are upside down on their home and have lost their job and they pay too much for gasoline -
Just tell them that Obama said he would not deserve a second term if he had not fixed everything within 3 years -
Then remark that Michelle’s new $2000 sundress is ever so beautiful - and smile.....
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No, this wasn’t a dem or an Obama voter and we weren’t discussing election candidates, just mostly about Obama’s actions.
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Aha -
Well - Anyone that could think that any of Obama’s actions are acceptable.....
I can think of one person that goes completely bonkers if you refer to Hussein Junior as a socialist -
It is like blind acceptance -
As I heard today on the radio - the left has become a religion -
The NK nutcase, Obama, whoever
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I think they were mostly referring to the ‘hoarders’ stocking up on guns and stuff devolve. - and that this is being done in reaction to Obozo’s actions. Naturally the topic of the 1950’s bomb shelters is brought up, lol.
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Well - the way Obama is crushing the economy and America’s military and security -
It might be wise to build that updated bomb shelter - rent their home to a rich liberal like Pelosi for $10,000 a day -
And live in that bomb shelter
Obama’s severe cutbacks in the Air Force and Navy are leaving the USA as it was in the late 30s
That did not turn out too great
If Obama is reelected - It may be Obama’s Last Scam -
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Years ago there was a house not far from here that had a bomb shelter. You could see the pipes that extended above the ground. At some point they got rid of the ‘plumbing’ anyway.
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A great place to hide your stash o’ cash and your coupons
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Coupons are ‘precious’, huh? Lol.
I have one that is, it’s a $40. Kohl’s Cash one from when I bought Christmas gifts. Has to be redeemed by Jan 2nd. Last year I had one that never got used.....!
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Hoo-Boy -
Better spend that Kohl’s Koopon on some for yourself before it is too late!
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Yeah, I don’t need anything but will use it.
I'm not being mean here; that is not my intent. Sometimes what we write carries more "mean-ness" than the writer intended, so....I'll apologize in advance. But I must ask.
To what "thirty percent" are you refering; and "thirty percent" of what?
This country's electorate is set...and given the stain's ruination of the office of president...completely and unalterably divided.
Are there remaining voters in this land who truly and honestly have not made up their mind as to whether or not they will permit the stain to be president one more day than is dicated by our laws, or conversely, will absolutely vote for the stain come what may?
If the financial and social train wreck of the last three years is not arguement enough, no words or "madison avenue hype" is going to matter at all. It certainly isnt' going to "convince" anyone to change their vote. This election is actually already over. We've only to go through the formality of the voting booth.
My mind has been made up for the last three years and nothing short of my death will cause me not to vote AGAINST the stain next year. Would that I could vote FOR someone, but that isn't going to happen this time around. So...I'll proudly vote AGAINST the stain who in three years did what two world wars and countless other attacks on this land failed to do....ruin it.
Welll .... IMHO anyway.
In 2008, six weeks before the election, McCain-Palin had a five percent lead over Obama-Biden in a number of polls. One week after the ensuing financial disaster, McCain-Palin was behind by five percentage points. And it stayed that way up to the election. The media had convinced many non-aligned voters that the Wall Street "banksters" and Republicans were responsible. Now we have to convince a sizable percentage of that non-aligned third that Obama is responsible for the economic disaster of the past three years.
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