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2012 is not about Obama; it’s a Referendum on the American Idea
Human Events ^ | 12/27/2011 | Jason Mattera

Posted on 12/27/2011 10:01:50 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

NO!
America is right now too stupid to make this about what America is defined as...the referendum IS ON OBAMA, not America. Let me explain.

A very close relative told me America is already socialist and that’s ok; I mean, we have social security. This is a college-educated person who said this. I’m afraid if we don’t make this about Obama, we risk leaving him in power.


21 posted on 12/28/2011 1:16:00 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: devolve

On the highway to hell!


22 posted on 12/28/2011 1:24:46 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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- Yup

- and Hussein Junior has a free TV Op every day - courtesy of the leftie media

I also see very little critism of Hussein-II on FR recently

Many on FR now are Koz-Kids I’d say

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23 posted on 12/28/2011 2:22:23 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Yeah, he can go on TV any time he pleases. I groan when I see him come on and wonder who actually watches him...

Guess we’re all more wrapped up in ‘who’ our candidates are right now, but still see what Obama’s doing. I look on Drudge many times a day for headlines.

Many newbies get zotted after they post their drivel, lol
Many ‘oldies’ do - also


24 posted on 12/28/2011 3:21:42 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: GlockThe Vote
2012 is about survival.

Indeed it is. We will not survive another term of the Kenyan Marxist. Hell, it'll be hard enough to turn things around with a loyal American in the White House.

25 posted on 12/28/2011 3:24:57 PM PST by Marathoner ("Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force." George Washington)
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To: Logic n' Reason

I’d be preaching to that thirty percent who can be swayed by a well-thought out argument. Obviously, political ads can only be effective with a small percentage. The Dems will always get their third, and Pubbies will always get their third. It’s the other third, (indys, whomever) that I want to persuade.


26 posted on 12/28/2011 4:06:35 PM PST by driftless2
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To: potlatch

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I’d say over 85% have neither the comprehension or interest to actually find out what is going on outside of CBS/NBC/ABC TV

The millions of kids today grow up seeing Hussein Junior in the White Hut (and NAZI “10K a day” Pelosi) every day knocking Republicans - and they take it in like little NAZIS as total truth:

“The rich have to pay their FAIR SHARE and give the MIDDLE CLASS a FAIR chance.....”

- The Entitlement Society approaches a majority of voters

- Add no Voter ID and Voter Fraud and Illegal Aliens and ACORN and the New Barack Pansies.....

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27 posted on 12/28/2011 4:08:10 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Strangely most things I mention are known by others who are not on the internet and someone told me that ‘we’ are considered the ‘fringe’ group. It was said in jest, but seriously meant I believe......... ;(

Sometimes things we get all aggitated about turn out not to be a big deal. But, we still know a lot more.


28 posted on 12/28/2011 6:00:52 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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Well - All those not informed about candidates and who and what they really are -

The gave America Hopey-Changey and barackruped the USA -

They just might do it again -

When they complain they are upside down on their home and have lost their job and they pay too much for gasoline -

Just tell them that Obama said he would not deserve a second term if he had not fixed everything within 3 years -

Then remark that Michelle’s new $2000 sundress is ever so beautiful - and smile.....

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29 posted on 12/28/2011 6:17:46 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

No, this wasn’t a dem or an Obama voter and we weren’t discussing election candidates, just mostly about Obama’s actions.


30 posted on 12/28/2011 6:29:04 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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Aha -

Well - Anyone that could think that any of Obama’s actions are acceptable.....

I can think of one person that goes completely bonkers if you refer to Hussein Junior as a socialist -

It is like blind acceptance -

As I heard today on the radio - the left has become a religion -

The NK nutcase, Obama, whoever

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31 posted on 12/28/2011 7:00:10 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

I think they were mostly referring to the ‘hoarders’ stocking up on guns and stuff devolve. - and that this is being done in reaction to Obozo’s actions. Naturally the topic of the 1950’s bomb shelters is brought up, lol.


32 posted on 12/28/2011 7:14:15 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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Well - the way Obama is crushing the economy and America’s military and security -

It might be wise to build that updated bomb shelter - rent their home to a rich liberal like Pelosi for $10,000 a day -

And live in that bomb shelter

Obama’s severe cutbacks in the Air Force and Navy are leaving the USA as it was in the late 30s

That did not turn out too great

If Obama is reelected - It may be Obama’s Last Scam -

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33 posted on 12/28/2011 7:36:11 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Years ago there was a house not far from here that had a bomb shelter. You could see the pipes that extended above the ground. At some point they got rid of the ‘plumbing’ anyway.


34 posted on 12/28/2011 7:43:01 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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A great place to hide your stash o’ cash and your coupons

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35 posted on 12/28/2011 8:03:59 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Coupons are ‘precious’, huh? Lol.
I have one that is, it’s a $40. Kohl’s Cash one from when I bought Christmas gifts. Has to be redeemed by Jan 2nd. Last year I had one that never got used.....!


36 posted on 12/28/2011 8:12:38 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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Hoo-Boy -

Better spend that Kohl’s Koopon on some for yourself before it is too late!

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37 posted on 12/28/2011 8:18:26 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - SHIP OF FOOLS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Yeah, I don’t need anything but will use it.


38 posted on 12/28/2011 8:25:52 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: driftless2
I’d be preaching to that thirty percent who can be swayed by a well-thought out argument

I'm not being mean here; that is not my intent. Sometimes what we write carries more "mean-ness" than the writer intended, so....I'll apologize in advance. But I must ask.

To what "thirty percent" are you refering; and "thirty percent" of what?

This country's electorate is set...and given the stain's ruination of the office of president...completely and unalterably divided.

Are there remaining voters in this land who truly and honestly have not made up their mind as to whether or not they will permit the stain to be president one more day than is dicated by our laws, or conversely, will absolutely vote for the stain come what may?

If the financial and social train wreck of the last three years is not arguement enough, no words or "madison avenue hype" is going to matter at all. It certainly isnt' going to "convince" anyone to change their vote. This election is actually already over. We've only to go through the formality of the voting booth.

My mind has been made up for the last three years and nothing short of my death will cause me not to vote AGAINST the stain next year. Would that I could vote FOR someone, but that isn't going to happen this time around. So...I'll proudly vote AGAINST the stain who in three years did what two world wars and countless other attacks on this land failed to do....ruin it.

Welll .... IMHO anyway.

39 posted on 12/29/2011 5:28:09 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Sorry, one third of all prospective voters are not set. That's the third both parties fight over. If either side can get a substantial percentage of that non-aligned third, they win most of the elections.

In 2008, six weeks before the election, McCain-Palin had a five percent lead over Obama-Biden in a number of polls. One week after the ensuing financial disaster, McCain-Palin was behind by five percentage points. And it stayed that way up to the election. The media had convinced many non-aligned voters that the Wall Street "banksters" and Republicans were responsible. Now we have to convince a sizable percentage of that non-aligned third that Obama is responsible for the economic disaster of the past three years.

40 posted on 12/29/2011 6:42:25 AM PST by driftless2
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