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Affordable Care? New Obamacare Fee Coming to Health Insurance in 2012
Big Government ^ | 12/27/11 | Publius

Posted on 12/27/2011 3:05:12 PM PST by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) — Starting in 2012, the government will charge a new fee to your health insurance plan for research to find out which drugs, medical procedures, tests and treatments work best. But what will Americans do with the answers?

The goal of the research, part of a little-known provision of President Barack Obama’s health care law, is to answer such basic questions as whether that new prescription drug advertised on TV really works better than an old generic costing much less.

But in the politically charged environment surrounding health care, the idea of medical effectiveness research is eyed with suspicion. The insurance fee could be branded a tax and drawn into the vortex of election-year politics.

The Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute – a quasi-governmental agency created by Congress to carry out the research – has yet to commission a single head-to-head comparison, although its director is anxious to begin.

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


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KEYWORDS: affordable; care; fee; obamacare; obamacarefees
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1 posted on 12/27/2011 3:05:24 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 12/27/2011 3:06:42 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

‘How’s that Hopey-Changey Thing Working Out for Ya?’ ~Governor Sarah Palin


3 posted on 12/27/2011 3:09:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Nachum

What?? I heard that health insurance premiums were going down $2500 per year..


4 posted on 12/27/2011 3:11:35 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: CMailBag

My health insurance premium went up $150 a month for two
of us. We now will pay $1265.00 a month.


5 posted on 12/27/2011 3:28:06 PM PST by jusduat (probably lost)
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To: jusduat

That would leave us in the poor house.


6 posted on 12/27/2011 3:31:09 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: CMailBag

that’s right - and wasn’t that supposed to happen right away?
Like in 2009 or 2010?


7 posted on 12/27/2011 3:34:52 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Nachum

The obama-made unemployed paying for their own coverage are going to love it.


8 posted on 12/27/2011 3:36:34 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Nachum

The plan is to leave just enough out of your paychecks so you can survive, be equal with your trodden poor fellow man, and unable to achieve the American dream.
And then if you DO manage to get your “American Dream” they will take it away from you, they will create a reason.


9 posted on 12/27/2011 3:39:25 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I’m very nearly poor after paying this premium. I’ve never
even had a mortgage this high. This is because I had
cancer this past year, and we’re older so they’ve got to
recoop the cancer expense.


10 posted on 12/27/2011 3:39:46 PM PST by jusduat (probably lost)
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To: Nachum

My family health insurance increased $100 in November and now cost over $13,000 per year. It’s more per month than a 30-year mortgage on a $300,000 home.

There is nothing “affordable” when it comes to Obamacare.


11 posted on 12/27/2011 3:40:48 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Nachum

My utter hatred and contempt for these people is beyond words.

If a nuclear bomb went off in DC and took them all out - I would throw a block party.


12 posted on 12/27/2011 4:02:20 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: clearcarbon

I am self employed and my business is barely hanging on as it is.

Obama and his communist gang of traitors can come jail me for all i care at this point.

If a great white shark came and ate obama while he was body surfing on his vacation, at this point i could care less for what he has done.


13 posted on 12/27/2011 4:07:09 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am at the point where I am ready to announce via facebook and others than anyone who knows me should NEVER talk to me again if they voted for obama or plan to do so again, that includes family and friends. I dont care anymore.


14 posted on 12/27/2011 4:09:14 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Nachum
and America takes another one in the........

15 posted on 12/27/2011 4:09:27 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum

I got a surprise...my health insurance is dropping by almost $30 a month!

Of course, I have a $2,500 deductible, virtually no prescriptions are covered and every time I see my primary doctor I get a bill for 70% of his fee (in addition to my copay). Same with blood work...the bill for the lion’s share of the fee arrives weeks later.

Sometimes I wonder “why have it at all”, but then I remember I live in Massachusetts, where Mitt Romney denied me that choice.


16 posted on 12/27/2011 4:17:41 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Nachum

That dumb SOB has lost his mind. This is done in clinical trials every day and typically requires hundreds, even thousands, of subjects. The drug companies spend billions on it, usually testing and comparing only two drugs at a time: the new treatment drug vs. the old standby drug that’s widely recognized as being the best prescription drug for the condition — not vs. over-the-counter crap, which long ago was ruled out as the best therapy. OMG, and that fool in the White House believes it’s a good idea to test almost every over-the-counter remedy against all the prescription drugs used for the same disease/condition? Say a giant 10-way study for every disease?

If it’s done properly, you’ll need sample sizes of thousands upon thousands of participants for each study. Maybe millions of participants for some of them. Even a two-way study sometimes needs thousands of subjects. And the studies will need to continue for years AND YEARS. OTOH, if it’s not done properly, why spend a nickel on it?

Get ready to be robbed blind.


17 posted on 12/27/2011 4:28:37 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: GlockThe Vote
My utter hatred and contempt for these people is beyond words.

If a nuclear bomb went off in DC and took them all out - I would throw a block party.


I'd throw a kegger myself, wanna come?
18 posted on 12/27/2011 5:14:15 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("What if the US became the USSR and the USSR became the US?" - Me, September of 1983)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I am at the point where I am ready to announce via facebook and others than anyone who knows me should NEVER talk to me again if they voted for obama or plan to do so again, that includes family and friends. I dont care anymore.

With the exception of a few I know that were duped and then had their eyes opened since then, I'm with ya. If you still think the Bamster is your guy and you vote for him, then I cannot be friends.
19 posted on 12/27/2011 5:17:06 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("What if the US became the USSR and the USSR became the US?" - Me, September of 1983)
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To: Nachum
Well, we know that the model is Britain's NHS, and we also know that they routinely decline cutting edge medical care for their members in favor of cheaper alternatives, or nothing at all, to keep costs down. Unfortunately for Brits they won't be able to come here for the best procedures, tests, etc as they'll be phased out. If Obamascare is fully implemented health care innovations will be disincentivized, so after a some time these pesky cost-benefit calculations won't have to be undertaken so routinely. Maybe Costa Rica will be the default medical tourism destination.

On personal responsibility: take care of yourselves-- self-educate, eat properly, lose weight if you need to, control blood sugar, exercise, get your BP at or below normal range, consider some supplements, stop smoking and drinking beyond moderate intake. *Find a doctor that you can access privately, outside the system* Because once poor health gets hold of you quality health care just won't be as accessible as it has been, and you might bang into bureaucratic walls or just simply slip through the cracks, especially if you're of a certain age. And even if you're still young and in good health it's much preferable to remain healthy than roll the dice in the darkened alley that is the future state of our health care system. Declining health is never fun, but battling for adequate care within what promises to be a dysfunctional system will only cause you greater suffering. The goal isn't immortality but to thrive while you're alive.

Have a nice day and vote Newt in 2012!

20 posted on 12/27/2011 5:33:19 PM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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