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To: algernonpj

I do see how it is done by facts and logic, not hyper-emotionalism of the RONULANS

After all, RONULANS demand that if the peopel vote for it, it’s CONSTITUTIONAL!

NO!

Our constitution is set up to support a REPUBLIC, NOT a democracy!

it is impossible to rightly govern without God and the Bible, and regardless of who originated this quote often said to be George Washington, it still stands.

Libertarians demand legal dope, legal prostitution, legal sin

get it yet?

You aren’t about LIBERTY, you are about LICENSE!

THINGS I WISH I HAD SAID
True Liberty is not license. Those who think as you, sir, pervert liberty, and destroy the fundamental principles that allow a culture to thrive economically. This is the error of libertarian philosophy.

What libertarianism proposes is moral relativism under the pretense of “non-interference.” However, in the final measure, the result is that guaranteed outcome of any morally ambiguous system, which denies human nature and the transcendent truths that govern all cause and effect relationships. In practice the imagined utopia of the libertarian is identical in its altruistic deception to that of atheistic communism; and the outcome is predictable: the destruction of the individual and the corporate body of humanity we call society.

Libertarians think they may advance the cause of “social liberalism” simultaneously with “fiscal conservatism;” but this duality of purpose is folly, and works diametrically and insidiously against itself. The social plagues induced by such novel philosophies invariably drain the public treasury, render the distinctions of absolute right and wrong to ambiguity, destroy public confidence in justice, and dissolve private wealth.

Human society does not and cannot exist in a moral vacuum. A society that having no absolute standards of conduct defers all decisions to the individual, exercising little or no restraint on behavior, abdicates the single most legitimate purpose of the state: to increase the common good and uphold the moral order. To quote Edmond Burke:

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

-— Letter to a Member of the National Assembly (1791)

A corrupt society, filled with men of licentious inclinations, cannot maintain its economic stability; or do you suppose the folly of the Roman Republic is worth revisiting in our times? “Give us bread and circuses!”

Economics does not transcend moral absolutes. Economics does not trump the Natural Law. History proves conclusively that no immoral or amoral culture can long prosper, nor survive its growing litany of perversions against the Natural Law; for such a corrupt body becomes its own undoing. Unfettered liberty generates unfettered vice.

Vice is not virtue; even if for a time libertarianism may advance a nation’s economic standing, it remains a foundation of sand because it denies the absolute transcendent truth indelibly stamped on the consciousness of every man by He who created all things. God is not mocked.


85 posted on 12/28/2011 12:16:54 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Do not confuse supporting ending the War on Drugs with promoting drug use, nor promoting ending Prohibition with promoting alcoholism.


87 posted on 12/28/2011 12:35:55 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RaceBannon
Libertarians demand legal dope,

I'm not a libertarian myself, but dope was legal nationwide until 1914, when the Harrison Act was passed. You could say that drug prohibition was a gateway bill that led to alcohol prohibition in 1920. The crusading clerics who fulminated in favor of the prohibition of alcohol and dope are long dead, but dope prohibition remains, sucking up public safety resources that would be better directed towards property and violent crimes. Some people say we'd save money on cops, judges and prisons by legalizing dope. I say we'd process non-dope-related cases a lot faster without dope cases (30% of felony cases) clogging up the judicial system.

There is some concern that drug addiction leads to increased criminality in the form of theft and other things. Maybe we should make those crimes felonies and up the prison terms. Why target dope users who don't steal or rob?

88 posted on 12/28/2011 2:57:03 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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