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Ex-aide calls Rep. Ron Paul's foreign policy views 'pure lunacy'
TheHill.com ^ | 27 Dec 11 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 12/27/2011 12:27:24 PM PST by seanmerc

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To: Roninf5-1
Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them.

FYI, Ron Paul feels that the US is a bigger currency manipulator than China, despite the $300b bilateral trade deficit, and opposes the imposition of tariffs on Chinese goods. Paul also gets an F on immigration from NumbersUSA, a lobbying group that wants to zero out immigration (legal and illegal), due to his stance that zeroing out entitlements, rather than immigration enforcement, is the way to deal with immigration issues. The problem, of course, is that entitlements are popular. If we have to wait for entitlements to be abolished, mass immigration will never end.

21 posted on 12/27/2011 3:38:44 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: RaceBannon

I don’t confuse advocating ending ‘The War on Drugs’ with promoting or condoning drug use.

OTH I wonder why do we have a War on Drugs while our northern and southern borders are sieves?


22 posted on 12/27/2011 3:40:44 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: seanmerc
he long piece by former aide Eric Dondero alleges awkward treatment by Paul of gays and Jews

I'm no fan of Paul's but having seen the comings and goings of Republican staffers over the years, I'm going to call "closet homo" on this Dondero guy. It's just a guess but it fits a pattern I've seen over and over again.

23 posted on 12/27/2011 3:51:44 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: algernonpj
OTH I wonder why do we have a War on Drugs while our northern and southern borders are sieves?

And the surrender monkey is advocating open boarders. What???
24 posted on 12/27/2011 3:54:34 PM PST by John D
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To: Roninf5-1
Who is this mythical force that could land troops on US soil? What in heavens name could they hope to accomplish?

You realize we are in this position because we have a powerful military that can project power and we tend to snuff out most threats before they become critical. Were it up to Ron Paul, things would be quite different. The last time we had a hollow military and a very weak foreign policy under Jimmy Carter, the dominoes were falling all over the world from Nicaragua to Angola to Afghanistan.

How much more damage could this fantasy invasion do than the very real invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens that Clinton/Bush/Obama have encouraged the past twenty years?

Last I checked, Ron Paul opposed a wall on the southern border because of some goofy idea that it would be used to prevent Americans from escaping to Mexico. I highly doubt Paul would be any more effective against illegal immigration than any of those you listed.

How much damage could they do than the Banksters have already done to our economy.

Err, what is a "bankster" exactly? The only place I ever hear the term is from leftists who blame everything on some loopy globalist, "bankster" conspiracy. Do you find yourself worrying about The Bilderberger Group by chance?

Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them. The North Koreans are pretty awful too but we only sent them a couple of nuclear reactors. When are we going to invade North Korea and liberate those poor people?

Ah, the old fallacy that we can't do anything until we do everything. Heard it a million times, standard left wing boilerplate talking point. Can't do anything about Afghanistan unless we do something about Iran and North Korea. Can't do anything about Iraq, unless we do something about Syria and Somalia. This is standard left wing thinking, which is not surprising coming from Paul supporters considering Ron Paul basically argues for a leftist foreign and defense policies.

25 posted on 12/27/2011 4:05:23 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: RIghtwardHo

Wait. They’ll be here soon, the Ron Paul defenders. They show up every time his name is mentioned. Maybe they do it for a living. I suspect Jonathan P@#ard also employs them. Maybe it’s an entire sector in the service industry, and there are ads out there somewhere: “Wanted: Angry chimp to surf the web looking for my name. Applicants must be able to assert baldly, work tirelessly, and set up bogus IDs on blogs. Salary commensurate with experience.”


26 posted on 12/27/2011 4:22:06 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Old Sarge

BTTT
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27 posted on 12/27/2011 4:24:15 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: seanmerc

RuPaul a nut on foreign policy, who would’ve guessed? All you have to do is Google his TV show appearances, that will tell you everything you need to know about this clown.


28 posted on 12/27/2011 4:27:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Old Sarge

BTTT
:)


29 posted on 12/27/2011 4:34:02 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: seanmerc
A flaming idiot and yet BETTER THAN BARACK OBAMA.
30 posted on 12/27/2011 4:39:32 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: seanmerc

Paul is ‘crazy’?

This is crazy:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/28/graphic-mapping-a-superpower-sized-military/


31 posted on 12/27/2011 4:44:30 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Merry Christmas, EGD!

Homo or not, Dondero was the “Libertarians for Giuliani” guy. A pompous goofball.


32 posted on 12/27/2011 4:45:34 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: seanmerc
This article minimizes the problem.

9/11 isn't foreign policy.

Ron Paul's supporters believe that something other than planes piloted by terrorists brought down the World Trade Center.

Ron Paul has never contradicted them.

Why not?

33 posted on 12/27/2011 4:45:49 PM PST by cmj328
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34 posted on 12/27/2011 4:46:24 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: seanmerc

It’s really a shame that some of the other candidates don’t pick up his fight against the Fed and his economic policies, because Paul does understand what is happening fiscally better than the others.

And if he runs as a third-party candidate, Obammie the Commie will win.

Why?

Because those of the Austrian school of economics and the Libertarians think this guy is John the Baptist and they worship the ground he walks on. They will definitely vote for him.

Too bad those same voters do not see how incredibly insane his foreign policy is. They truly believe that if we “stop meddling” in the world, we will have no enemies that want to destroy us. They are complete fools in this regard.


35 posted on 12/27/2011 5:36:12 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Karl Denninger has jumped the shark. Do not visit his blog.))
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To: algernonpj

because it’s fun for cops in every town to have a SWAT team and cool guns.


36 posted on 12/27/2011 6:06:55 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I love that this neo-nazi son of a bitch Ron Paul is finally getting what he deserves.


37 posted on 12/27/2011 6:50:59 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: manc

“Time to run AD’s on this loon and informing the public at how much he is a nut.”

That strategy is already being played out in the conservative media. The talking points are out there and the conservative media is doing what it can to pre-emptively defeat RP.

But it’s something of a hands-off, hiding-behind-surrogates approach and I’ll tell you why: the gop needs Ron Paul to stay in the gop. The gop establishment isn’t much concerned about a republican Ron Paul. They’re concerned about an unshackled Ron Paul who goes ahead and mounts a third party challenge. He has the money and the organization to do it, and they know it.


38 posted on 12/27/2011 6:51:44 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: cmj328

“Ron Paul has never contradicted them.”

No?

Presidential Debate Carl Cameron: “...Many of your supporters are call themselves 9/11 Truthers...Sir, would you ask them to cease their [9/11 inside job] rhetoric on your behalf?

Paul: “Well, it doesn’t do me any good, so if they care about me they should [cease it].”

John Gibson Show on Fox News Radio September 14, 2007: John Gibson: “You have associated yourself in some ways with these people that they call 9/11 Truthers, who think that the U.S. government was in on the 9/11 attacks. Do you also believe that’s true?”

Paul: “No. And I wouldn’t say I associate with them; they associate with me. But there’s no way a candidate can control every thought process of everybody who supports him...”

Gibson: “But you go on Alex Jones’ show...Will you say right here and now that you completely disavow the 9/11 truth movement and the whole idea that the U.S. government was on in the 9/11 attack?”

Paul: “Yes I do...”

Interview with Julie Banderas on Fox News August 5, 2007: Julie Banderas: “Do you believe that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an inside job?”

Paul: “Well, the answer is no if they mean by ‘inside job’ that our government made it happen. No, I don’t believe that.”

Interview with Mike Gallagher July 19, 2007: Mike Gallagher: “Is it fair to say that you believe that there was some kind of either government conspiracy or cover-up involving September 11th, 2001”

Ron Paul: “No, not really. I never bring that up. Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that. And I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that’s not my position. I do think government’s basically inept.

Interview with Shawn Wasson LiveLeak.com July 24,2007:

Wasson: “Your position then would be that as far as you’re concerned, the official story from 9/11 - and this is not about the government covering up their mistakes. This is about the suggestions from these people...that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government, you do not support that theory?”

Paul: “Absolutely not!”

Interview with Adam Curry on Daily Source Code October 24, 2007:

Adam Curry: “9/11 Conspiracy theories. Do you buy any of it Dr. Ron?”

Paul: “Not, not really. Not the kind that say well it was all conspired by our government and they did it for this purpose of us ushering in this War on Terrorism. No I don’t believe any of that.

Interview with Glenn Beck, December 18, 2007: Glenn Beck: “I have watched the interviews with you. You don’t leave any room for any doubt on a 9/11 conspiracy, but I’d just like to make it clear and ask you - and I don’t believe these need explanation unless I’ve read your answers wrong elsewhere - but, may I just run through these 9/11 conspiracies?: No plane hit the Pentagon on September 11th; instead, it was a missile fired by elements from inside the American state apparatus. Yes or no?”

Paul: “No. It’s preposterous.”

Beck: “The planes that hit the World Trade Center towers were remotely controlled.”

Paul: “[Shaking his head no and shugging his shoulders] I mean this is just bizarre. I’ve not even heard these challenges before.”

Beck: “O.K. I understand that. I don’t mean to - sir, these are the people that - some of these people speak in your name and they actually say that you will be on this program tonight and you will answer the way you are answering now because you can’t let on. They believe that you are part..of another kind of conspiracy to expose the conspiracy of 9/11 and the World Trade Center. Can you - I mean you you’d - I don’t know how you address people who are so deeply into conspiracy but can you?

Paul: “I, I don’t know what I would be - supposed to be doing. Uh, no. I mean I don’t think there’s any evidence..”

Beck: “Is there any evidence or is there any doubt in your mind that the United States government was not involved in the September 11th attacks - that we did not bring down World Trade Center number seven?”

Paul: “...I absolutely believe that is true - they did not. <...> No, I don’t believe that at all. I think it - I don’t think I should even have to answer questions like that [laugh].”

Beck: “Yes sir. I do not believe that this is your point of view, and I don’t believe that this is the point of view of most of your supporters - the vast, vast majority [of your supporters].”

Interview with Michael Medved on the Michaeld Medved Show. August 28, 2007:

Michael Medved: “Do you have any doubt, Congressman Ron Paul, that the horrors of 9/11 were perpetrated by 19 Arab young men working as agents of international terror in the form of Al-Qaida?”

Paul: “No. I don’t know of anybody that really questions that in a serious manner...To say that it was something somebody other than the Al-Qaida - and I don’t hear too many people saying that - but I’m sure there are people saying things like that and that there’s some type of conspiracy - but I think it’s pretty hard to refute airplanes plowing into a building. [chuckle]”

source:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/ron_paul_911_interviews.htm


39 posted on 12/27/2011 7:04:51 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Zhang Fei

As I said the topic of WWII is a useful subject to separate out the lunatics from rational people. There being nothing further to discuss I hope you have a nice evening.


40 posted on 12/27/2011 7:05:22 PM PST by plain talk
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