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The Full Mandate: Gingrich Not Just for a “Bond” (Gingrich & Romney Were Always on the same Team)
Center for Individual Freedom ^ | December 27th, 2011 | Quin Hillyer

Posted on 12/27/2011 11:20:59 AM PST by nickcarraway

If anybody actually cares about integrity and freedom, this latest news should be big trouble for Newt Gingrich. Somebody (I need to find out who) dug up this old memo from Gingrich praising Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts health care plan in fulsome terms, and especially praising its individual mandate to buy health insurance:

The individual mandate requires those who earn enough to afford insurance to purchase coverage, and subsidies will be made available to those individuals who cannot afford insurance on their own. We agree strongly with this principle, but the details are crucial when it comes to the structure of this plan. … In our estimation, Massachusetts residents earning little more than $30,000 a year are in jeopardy of being priced out of the system. In the event that this occurs, Governor Romney will be in grave danger of repeating the mistakes of his predecessor, Mike Dukakis, whose 1988 health plan was hailed as a save-all but eventually collapsed when poorly-devised payment structures created a malaise of unfulfilled promises. We propose that a more realistic approach might be to limit the mandate to those individuals earning upwards of $54,000 per year.

On one hand, this isn’t the most astonishing news: Gingrich has been quoted for 17 years in favor of some sort of individual mandate, and this 2006 citation isn’t even the most recent one. On the other hand, Gingrich has insisted that his proposal was something a little different — some sort of “bond” that rich people would put up — and, also, that he really started moving away from even that “bond” mandate after a while because, really, the reason he was for a mandate was in order to have a conservative alternative to Hillarycare in 1994. At other times he has tried hard to play down or soften the edges of his support for a mandate. But this is unequivocal, and it is within the past six years, and it shows not a single hesitation about undermining individual liberty. Indeed, Gingrich’s only complaint is a class-warfare-inducing lament: Romney stuck the mandate on lower-middle-income earners, whereas Gingrich only would apply it to middle-middle-income earners. Gee, what a relief! (Not!)

Even worse, Gingrich is to the left of Romney on Romney’s own health plan. Romney at worst has only tentatively recommended Romneycare as a whole as a model for the nation; and this year, he has become like a broken record saying he would never impose a mandate via the federal government, and that Romneycare was an example of state-level federalism in action, unique to the circumstances of Massachusetts. Gingrich, on the other hand, wrote this: “The most exciting development of the past few weeks is what has been happening up in Massachusetts. The health bill that Governor Romney signed into law this month has tremendous potential to effect major change in the American health system.” Those lines led directly into his discussion of the mandate, which Gingrich described as an example of requiring “personal responsibility.”

All of which leads back to what I said in my May 17 column here on this site, namely that Gingrich and Romney both flunk conservative political philosophy. I repeat now what I wrote then: “[T]he issue here isn’t utility, but liberty. Mussolini ‘made the trains run on time,’ but that should never have justified his authoritarianism. Essential liberty must never be sacrificed on some central planner’s altar of efficiency.”

Or, for that matter, on some former Speaker’s warped notion of what does and doesn’t qualify as “personal responsibility.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giingrichromney; gingrich; mandate; romney; romneycare; socialists
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To: nickcarraway

Rick Santorum is every bit as smart as Newt Gingrich and much more dependably conservative.

Vote Rick Santorum in 2012.


41 posted on 12/27/2011 12:50:08 PM PST by Eva
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To: Coldwater Creek

I will find a conservative to vote for. I’ll let you know the name, if, God forbid, one of those 2 clowns wins the repub nomination.


42 posted on 12/27/2011 12:52:57 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: Eva

Your job in promoting Rick Santorum is not to hammer Newt Gingrich. It is to hammer Mitt Romney.

Anyone who doesn’t hammer Romney is suspect in my book. I just consider them another naive conservative or a covert Romney-bot.


43 posted on 12/27/2011 12:55:57 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: xzins
While I understand your sentiments entirely, I can not WILL not contribute one iota towards the re-election of the absolute disaster currently inhabiting the WH. I'll vote for Rip Sawyer's squirrels first.
44 posted on 12/27/2011 12:58:17 PM PST by skeeter
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To: nickcarraway

Newt has said he will dismantle Obamacare before Zero’s plane lands in Chicago. I don’t see a problem here.


45 posted on 12/27/2011 1:00:02 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: nickcarraway
I think that putting our government in charge of healthcare is insane. No matter what. This is the same logic they used to justify federal income tax and everything after it. I think you are suicidal if you want to do that. Gingrombacare is deadly for our freedom.

Perry thought that Hillarry's efforts of government deciding our healthcare was "worthy" and "commendable".


46 posted on 12/27/2011 1:03:45 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: pfony1
Okay, at debates, candidates just say what they think the audience wants to hear. Gingrich has many times over the years mentioned that Alvin Toffler and his book, Third Wave. Among other things, this book tells us that the Constitution is obsolete, etc. Why has Gingrich promoted this book and said it has been the most influential book on this philosophy? Are you calling him a liar. That's what Gingrich has said about himself, not his enemies. How can you ignore his own words??
47 posted on 12/27/2011 1:06:12 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Its a disgustingly slanted article by a moron.


48 posted on 12/27/2011 1:06:55 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: pfony1

In Mitt Romney can convince you to vote for a warmed-over Marxist, that’s your right. But as for me, a whole army or Romneys couldn’t get me to vote for Gingrich and against our Constitution.


49 posted on 12/27/2011 1:10:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: skeeter

A conservative candidate who brings together conservatives could win a 3 way race.

Conservatives account for 40% of the vote, liberals 20%, and moderates 40%.

If Obama and Romney split the 60% libs and moderates, then the 40% conservative ticket wins.

Just something to think about.


50 posted on 12/27/2011 1:13:29 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: nickcarraway

Did Gingrich do anything during his 20 years in congress to convince you he’s intent upon dismantling the constitution?


51 posted on 12/27/2011 1:15:32 PM PST by skeeter
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To: xzins
Newt is saying here that we should require some people to have health insurance rather than having them get their bills paid by ME and YOU. He said in 2006 that folks making 54 grand a year or more should foot their own damn bill IF they’re going to be using a medical facility. 54 grand in 2006 is probably the equivalent of 60-65 grand in 2012 dollars. So, do you think some clown making 60 grand should walk into the hospital and get to walk out paying nothing? I don’t.

I agree. Hospitals are currently mandated to treat the uninsured. Part of those expenses get past on to the rest of us.

I’m beginning to think that the best answer is to get rid of all health insurance and force everyone to pay out of pocket. Everyone on their own....pay your own way.

The best most conservative solution is...

- No government mandates of any kind.

- Government should not mandate that the uninsured get treated.

- Government should not mandate that we have insurance.

But as long as we have the government mandating that the uninsured must get treated, then of course everyone should have insurance. I believe that was Newt's point back in '06.

52 posted on 12/27/2011 1:17:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ez
Okay, for years, Newt has supported socialized healthcare and wrote eloquently on it. Then he's running for president and he realizes that position is a nonstarter, so he tells people what he wants to hear. I guarantee you, he will revert back to his long held position and expand Obamacare. The Dems will love it, because the GOP will take the blame. Gingrich will drive at least 75% of small businesses out of business. Can you afford that?

This is the man who said rightwing social engineers were the greatest threat to American a few months ago.

53 posted on 12/27/2011 1:19:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FreeReign
But as long as we have the government mandating that the uninsured must get treated, then of course everyone should have insurance. I believe that was Newt's point back in '06.

Don't you realize you are just telling the3 left what they have to do to get their way? Anyone who can be fooled that easily, should not be president. One more time: the cost of paying for the moochers is infinitely smaller than the cost of losing all your freedom. You are just playing into their hands.

54 posted on 12/27/2011 1:22:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FreeReign

Translation to what you are saying: I’d rather turn the USA into the USSR, than allow one person to get what their not entitled to.


55 posted on 12/27/2011 1:24:34 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FreeReign; P-Marlowe; wmfights
Outstanding post, FreeReign! Thanks.

But as long as we have the government mandating that the uninsured must get treated, then of course everyone should have insurance. I believe that was Newt's point back in '06.

56 posted on 12/27/2011 1:27:56 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: skeeter
Well, aiding Bill Clinton in his attacks on the Constitution was a start.

The American people were responsible for the '94 revolution, and I don't like how Gingrich took credit for it, then squandered it. But, yes, Gingrich is way to the left of where he was before. In 2006 he stopped pretending to be a conservative, because he realized it wasn't popular, and did an apology tour for conservatism. He was just following his consort, Arianna Huffington.

57 posted on 12/27/2011 1:27:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: skeeter

How about the bill he consponsored with Barney Frank in 1980? You think that was a good one?


58 posted on 12/27/2011 1:28:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: skeeter

Why would he promote that book if he disagreed with it’s central tenants?


59 posted on 12/27/2011 1:29:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t know - why don’t you explain it?


60 posted on 12/27/2011 1:30:35 PM PST by skeeter
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