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To: Enterprise
The problem with that scenario as I see it through the eyes of YHVH is this...

No US president takes an oath to a foreign power and any that takes action as to claim any authority over foreign power is usurping the power of YHVH.

It wasn’t Germany that attacked America troops on Hawaiian soil, it was Japan. Also, Germany never declared war against the United States and for that matter, neither did Japan, Japan merely attacked to provoke. Our founding fathers detested war and I believe that is why they found grace in the eyes of YHVH and thus His Divine Providence protected them and brought them victory in order for there to be a land in which YHVH’s children could live in peace, worshiping Him and in doing so, shining the “Light” of YHVH to the world. The archives of congress are replete with account after account how the Jewish people (house of Judah) who had settled in America gave all, including lives & wealth in support of freedom from persecution because if the Brits had won, they would have gone back under religious bondage a whole lot sooner than the mid 20th century.

In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Why? Because he was a Jew. Persecution via holocaust was not invented in the 20th century and no matter where the house of Judah flees to, the curse follows them because they refuse to do as their Creator commands them to do which is to bring back their brethren under Torah and give up their doctrine of man(Talmud). And while I say this, I do not totally reject the Talmud, there is a lot of history that can be gleamed from it, especially about Temple service which is vital in knowing and understanding our Creator and how His covenant works. But that is all it is, a reference written by man. A reference that was not given to them by YHVH which they admit to.

128 posted on 12/27/2011 6:57:35 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
"Also, Germany never declared war against the United States and for that matter, neither did Japan, Japan merely attacked to provoke.

"By the grace of Heaven, Emperor of Japan [Emperor Shōwa], seated on the throne occupied by the same dynasty from time immemorial, enjoin upon ye, Our loyal and brave subjects:

We hereby declare War on the United States of America and the British Empire. The men and officers of Our Army and Navy shall do their utmost in prosecuting the war. Our public servants of various departments shall perform faithfully and diligently their respective duties; the entire nation with a united will shall mobilize their total strength so that nothing will miscarry in the attainment of Our war aims."

Japanese declaration of war on the United States and the British Empire

"The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.

Accept, Mr. Charge d'Affaires, the expression of my high consideration.

December 11, 1941.

RIBBENTROP.

German Declaration of War with the United States: December 11, 1941

Japan and Germany did declare war on the United States. I'm not going to get into a hair splitting discussion about the exact words a nation needs to declare War. Ribbentrop could not have delivered this message without the approval of Hitler, because Hitler was absolute dictator of Germany. If Germany considered itself in a state of war with the United States, it was because Hitler considered himself in a state of war with the United States.

For purposes of this thread, I prefer to stay with what we know was in the mind of man, and what we saw through the eyes of man. The central point is not what the plans for Israel were by a divine being, it is about Ron Paul's statement about using U.S. Military Forces to end the Holocaust. Ron Paul's statement was preposterous on its face, and shows as much knowledge of World History's events, and what drove them as Obama knows how many states there are.

129 posted on 12/27/2011 7:51:41 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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