[calex59]

Horse sh**. There were no lies and Paul wasn't the only one who said it, many did, including FReepers, of which I was one. Thanks to Bush and the Patriot Act we have HS and the TSA, now look me in the eye and tell me those two agencies are not on the road to tyranny. Nothing that has been done since 9/11 in the name of security has made us one iota safer, no terrorist have ever been stopped because of them. This latest bill is plain to read for anyone who wants to do so, and it is plain they can arrest and detain anyone, citizen or not, for any reason they care to give.

The thing is they can't over ride the constitution with a bill, but the way this one is written they can arrest you and keep you incommunicado, so who will you seek redress?

Just because the messenger is a nut case doesn't mean he is wrong. Paul is right about this bill.

[WhiskeyX]

No, they cannot “arrest you and keep you incommunicado” by virtue of this legislation. It expressly excludes the authority to detain a U.S. Citizen. It applies only to the belligerents. The law of armed conflict makes it illegal to put a lawful belligerent on trial in a criminal court, detain in a criminal jail or prison with convicted criminals, or deny the protection of indefinite detention during hostilities. Doing so constitutes a war crime. Do you propose to commit such war crimes by denying belligerents the protection of indefinite detention during the hostilities?