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To: circlecity
Ron Paul has been making statements about a declaration of war which are contrary to fact. In other words, the poor man doesn't know what he is talking about, and he misleads other who have placed their faith in this man.

The current legislation under discussion explicitly excludes U.S. Citizens and Alien residents in certain categories. Representations to the contrary by so many people are simply contrary to the actual language in Subchapter D.

The President of the United States has always had the Constitutional authority to suspend the writ of habeus corpus in the event of rebellion and invasion since it was adopted in 1878. This Presidential power has been exercised a number of times in the 19th, 20th, and 21st Centuries. President Abraham Lincoln used Presidential orders to suspend the writ of habeus corpus on four occasions during the Civil War, and three of those occasions were pursuant to Congressional resolutions to do so. It was done so again in nine counties of South Carolina in response to rebellion by the Klu Klux Klan. It was done so again in Hawaii during the Second World War.

The current legislation is far more limited in the scope of its authority than the still operative powers of the President existing since 1787. The Progressive lawyers are attempting to mislead and deceive you into supporting acts which are war crimes and would put U.S. citizens in much more grave danger than would be faced by the indefinite detention in accordance with the law of armed conflict.

The indefinite detention mandated by the law of armed conflict serves to protect the detainee against unjust prosecutions and punishments by hostile governments. By insisting there must be and can be no indefinite detentions of belligerents during the existence of hostilities, you are putting the detainees at even greater risk of being subjected to hostile kangaroo courts i which the defendant cannot call witnesses in defense or command discovery of evidence. Before you go destroying these protections in ignorance, you had better learn what the consequences can be to our prisoners of war and our own U.S. citizens detained by a corrupt federal government.

82 posted on 12/27/2011 10:16:00 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
The President of the United States has always had the Constitutional authority to suspend the writ of habeus corpus in the event of rebellion and invasion since it was adopted in 1878.

Um, NO.

Article I, Section 9 (Limits on Congress)
The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

As to your continued insistence on claiming it is a war crime to immediately try "illegal combatants" - try reading the Geneva Conventions which call for EXACTLY that.

96 posted on 12/27/2011 11:50:44 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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