[rabscuttle385]

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[pallis]

Napolitano and the Nazi-minded goons at Homeland Security have demonstrated that terrorism and terrorists are what and who they say they are. One memo can make any of us a terrorist, and one piece of bad legislation takes away our right to prove different. That’s what big government is all about.

[microgood]

What these idiots fail to understand is the the Federal Government is too incompetent and corrupt to be allowed to have this kind of power.

[Gilbo_3]

rand paul is probably the only vote ive ever cast that i can honestly say i had a choice, and the vote aided my kids furture...

too bad he will forever be saddled with his fathers name, for right or wrong, in the future...

[Jim Scott]

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 that allows federal agents to arrest and indefinitely imprison U.S. citizens suspected of being terrorists, without a hearing or trial, is a clear abridgment of our constitutional rights. The Rand Paul- sponsored bill: 'Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011" is the antidote to that poison. Let's get it publicized and passed.

[gargoyle]

...Related Thread.

Totalitarian Dictatorship

[Tallguy]

Given the opportunity to clarify existing law and confirm that American citizens are not subject to indefinite military detention at the order of the president — Congress punted.

I've come to the conclusion that Congress will pretty much let any president do pretty much what they want within certain boundaries fixed by the major parties. In return for that individual congressmen are left alone to loot the country through IPO's, illegal campaign contributions and outright graft. How else do they go into congress with modest incomes and come out a few years later worth millions?

[MurrietaMadman]

The need for a Stability Police Force is foreseen now what with all the change sweeping our world.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG819.pdf

[Zarro]

Thanks for posting. I believe that most Americans are not even aware of the NDAA provisions. You can go to all the “major” MSM sites and search on NDAA and you will find NOTHING.

Recall each and every Congressperson that voted for it.

[Graewoulf]

” - - - After a debate in which key members seriously contemplated empowering the president - - - “

Thanks for this thread.

Anytime that I hear or read about Congress adding more power to the Executive Branch of our sorry US Federal Government I question why Congress bothers to even come to work.

We already have a Dictator (in his own mind), and so is it really true that our sorry RINOs in Congress have learned NOTHING????????????

[khnyny]

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/h-r-1540-bill-text-and-report

Contains actual bill, etc.

[Carry_Okie]

America IS the battleground and the government is violating our rights.

[muddler]

* for future

[Gene Eric]

>> Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., cheered the provision, because it would “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield.”

Like Hell it is ‘the first time’.

The legislation, funding, and practice portending the transformation into a police state is upon us.

These legislatures are despicable, disingenuous mouthpieces for something once know as representation.

[patriot preacher]

The NDAA is a disaster. A complete repudiation of the Bill of Rights. A repeal of the Constitution. A declaration of martial law without actually deploying the military, setting curfews or confiscating citizens weapons — YET. Think I’m exaggerating? READ the pertinent sections — then interpret it like a Washington bureaucrat or a Federal judge. Case closed. NDAA MUST be overturned.... The alternatives are unthinkable.