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Pretty well laid out line of logic and facts.
1 posted on 12/23/2011 10:12:48 AM PST by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 12/23/2011 10:13:31 AM PST by marktwain
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It is beyond me that any Mexican or Hispanic would support Obama and his administration after Fast and Furious. I know it was reported in Spanish-language media to some extent. Maybe I just don’t understand their mindset/world view. There’s just this huge, obvious silence regarding the hundreds of Mexican victims of Fast and Furious, a silence that comes across as a sort of a shrug and an “Oh well.” And I hear that “Oh well” from our Left, too. They don’t really seem to give a flip about the American or the Mexican dead. Talk to people on the Left, and they just kind of stare, go vague, and mumble they don’t know much about it all. Well, Fast and Furious was an outrage, a criminal, coordinated action by elements in at least five departments of our federal government which resulted in hundreds of deaths. The families of those victims must see justice done and in public. “Oops” is not enough.


3 posted on 12/23/2011 10:50:07 AM PST by Coyote Choir
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“Very clearly, they’ve [the Obama administration] made a crisis and they’re using this crisis to somehow take away or limit people’s Second Amendment rights,” said Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who is leading the House investigation into “Fast and Furious.”

“There’s plenty of evidence showing that this administration planned to use the tragedies of ‘Fast and Furious’ as rationale to further their goals of a long gun reporting requirement,” stated Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA), who is leading the investigation on the Senate side.

Even Obama’s Attorney General, Eric Holder, recently admitted to Congress that “Fast and Furious” guns would continue to show up at crime scenes in the U.S. and Mexico “for years to come” – just as two of them were found at the murder scene of slain Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

So this is news? To who is this news?

The problem is that the media, the Democrats, and much of the public don't care about Contitutional rights, to them the "end" justifies the means and they honestly (and mistakenly) believe that gun control is in the public interest.

That is the real issue that the media needs to focus on. We need the public to understand that there is a Contitution and that it guarantees certain rights and that means something. I hope Congress can get its act together long enough to make Eric Holder understand that the Constitution is not something to screw with.

4 posted on 12/23/2011 11:00:49 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: marktwain
Pretty well laid out line of logic and facts.

Yes, it is but to say it "Endangered lives" is a rather drastic understatement. At least two American Federal agents and at least 300 Mexican citizens, from Federale agents to little children, are dead. Slaughtered, butchered, shot to pieces dead.

6 posted on 12/23/2011 11:58:56 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

They didn’t endanger lives, they committed murder and conspired to commit murder. Brian Terry wasn’t endangered, he was targeted and murdered.


8 posted on 12/23/2011 12:06:54 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
13 posted on 12/23/2011 3:00:01 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


16 posted on 12/23/2011 5:30:18 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marktwain

Yep. And these communists then promoted their complicit managers...and attacked the whistleblowers nonstop.


17 posted on 12/23/2011 8:36:19 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: marktwain
When I think about what this administration is doing, I'm reminded of Osama Bin Laden's "strong horse- weak horse" way of looking at things. These bastards see us all (gun owners, etc.) as weak and we have Boehner and Mitchell and almost every weak-kneed Republican going back many years to thank.

Nixon resigned over a burglary. This President should be impeached (if F&F can be traced back to him) and his AG should be led to the nearest federal penitentiary in full body restraints.

That would send a message and, would begin the restoration of 'law' as we understand it. But it'll never happen. These things can't happen to a Black person- not now, not ever. Political correctness and white guilt have turned an otherwise principaled people into pussies without spines. That's how they see us, like it or not.

Yet, in my experience dealing with liberals, showing 'spine' gets them heading for the exits. Why? Because the foundation of their philosophy rests on sand- it is ever changing. Ours stands upon rock-solid truth which they can't withstand. Simply put, when you get in their face, they fold like a 2$ suitcase.

Such resistance to liberalism has been long overdue. Witness the villification of the Tea Party by these worms. Imagine their reaction to a "John Wayne" party- "I'm not gonna hit you."..... "The Hell I won't!" Bam!!

We can no longer afford to go 'weak horse' with these a-holes. Our country will not survive. The kick-in-the-ass they have coming should be great enough to be felt by FDR himself in his grave.

Did I mention I won't be voting for McRomney? Gingrich is the only one among the field with the 'boot' needed to get the Left's attention. We'll have to provide the 'follow through' but that shouldn't be too hard. As I say, they'll scatter faster than a North Korean cockroach in the face of a concerted effort to put this country back on-track. Trust me.

20 posted on 12/23/2011 11:09:24 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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