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To: mrsmith
Seriously though, what advantage do you see in doing this again in January?

The problem isn't that the House Republicans are wrong, it's that leadership made what appears to be a fatal error on this issue and the House and Senate Republicans are not on the same page.

What appears to have happened is Boehner/McConnell and Reid struck some kind of deal which was a temporary payroll tax cut extension with no tax increase offsets and the Keystone language. McConnell took it back to his caucus and got the vast majority of Republicans to vote for it. Boehner did the same and found opposition and lacked the votes to pass it. Now Boehner is stuck. McConnell and Reid are done and their caucuses are either out of town or want to be, very few want to come back and deal with it again. The agreement was already spun as a win for Republicans because there were no tax increase offsets and the Keystone language was included. The House is reopening an issue that was perceived as done, and they just end up looking obstinate and politically clumsy. They aren't going to win now. The politics of it is working against them so badly that they will end up caving. And if they actually don't, then the resulting tax increase will be blamed on House Republicans. You gotta pick your battles and once this was mishandled it was lost. Either Boehner is making deals he doesn't have the votes for, or House Republicans backed away from the deal under pressure from constituents. Either way, it's a mess now and most likely a no win situation that will end up resulting in the House caving in.

62 posted on 12/21/2011 9:38:06 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

"The problem isn't that the House Republicans are wrong, it's that leadership made what appears to be a fatal error..."

I vividly remember you talking about all those "fatal" errors that the GOP was making in 2010, and how those mistakes were going to cost them the midterms...

67 posted on 12/21/2011 9:49:44 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Longbow1969

But don’t you agree that in January there’ll be the same RINO-Tea Party schism to ruin our PR front?

I just see the same thing happening again. Only all the broadly supported measures to pay for it will have been used up on the two-month extension- leaving tax hikes as the favored Dem-RINO solution.

Yes, it would be disastrous for the Rs to fold. Their fight has to be FOR a full extension of the payroll tax cut.
The worst likely result I see is Dems will drag this out past the expiration and then negotiate an extension without tax hikes- though some of the ‘spending cuts’ will be illusionary.

The Dems will be praised by the media for -well, for whatever the media can think of- but that’ll happen anyway.


77 posted on 12/21/2011 10:20:06 AM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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