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Obama Administration Endangered Lives to Justify Gun Control
Townhall ^ | 12/20/2011 | Chris W. Cox

Posted on 12/20/2011 1:51:29 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Title of article is wrong.

Should read...

Obama Administration orchestrates mass murder to advance gun control agenda.

21 posted on 12/20/2011 2:36:15 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: neverdem

This is way beyond criminal. This is an act of war against Mexico, which so far as I know, is still a sovereign nation, even though it is undergoing internal strife.

When one nation makes a policy of supporting rebels or even terrorists in another country, this is regarded as very bad relations. As a parallel situation, say, Iran or another nation known to support terrorists against their enemies, like supplying arms and rockets to Hamas, to be used against Israel, that is provocative action that could only be called war-like.

In this era of undeclared and irregular wars, the intent of making weapons available to known terrorists is in itself an act of terror, and in a larger sense, yet another undeclared but active war.

There is an awful lot of “walking” that is going to have be done here. Like maybe a “perp walk” for a number of as yet unindicted co-conspirators.

That would darned near clear out the Department of Justice.


22 posted on 12/20/2011 2:37:55 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: sjmjax
Obama Administration Orchestrates Mass Murder To Advance Gun Control Agenda.

Accurate and appropriate.

23 posted on 12/20/2011 2:46:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: alloysteel
...that could only be called war-like.

It could also be called state-sponsored terrorism.
That is what our State Dept. calls it when Iran, NK and other nations do it.

24 posted on 12/20/2011 2:50:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

What I would like to know is WHY the gaggle of Republican presidential candidates are not even mentioning F&F.

The first one to bring it out in the open for all to hear will be my choice.


25 posted on 12/20/2011 2:50:16 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: RobinOfKingston

At least the Republicans are no longer calling it a little BooBoo the administration accidentally made.


26 posted on 12/20/2011 2:50:27 PM PST by yarddog
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To: neverdem

I once heard about a similar scam involving William Randolph Hearst trying to arm Pauncho Villa to incite more border violence to get federal protection for his (Hearst’s) timber interests in Mexico. I heard about it from one of Pershing’s cavalry officers in the early 1970’s.


27 posted on 12/20/2011 2:52:15 PM PST by Spok (From hope and change to change is hopeless. In just the first term.)
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To: Progov

Using an issue that few people know about and is still in the putative stages of Congressional investigation as a campaign issue isn’t a winner. It’s risky even.


28 posted on 12/20/2011 2:53:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Gaffer
The MSM is that strong and unfortunately most of the people don’t get their news here or any place like it - even Fox isn’t pushing it.

Sad but true. Almost everyone that I have mentioned it to has never heard of "Fast and Furious" even those Conservatives who are very against Obama.

29 posted on 12/20/2011 2:54:23 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Logical me
"Do any doubt that?"

No, not in the least.
30 posted on 12/20/2011 3:01:16 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: Gaffer
The MSM is that strong and unfortunately most of the people don’t get their news here or any place like it - even Fox isn’t pushing it.

Dems Blame Bush For Operation Fast and Furious With Lies

That's from the Post Chronicle (Denville, N.J.). Foxnews and other Murdoch outfits have covered F & F plenty. So did the LA Times and CBS, at least online. It's been om PBS' Newshour and NPR. It's just not getting on much broadcast coverage. I've posted F & F online stories from all over the country. If folks don't know about it they're just not that well informed on current events.

Just wait till Holder gets impeached.

31 posted on 12/20/2011 3:06:19 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Well, Reno/Clinton incinerated a hundred people almost 20 years ago. Very little pushback then and they actually got away with prosecuting some survivors. To today's Drivebys, the Waco massacre never happened.

Bill Clinton is Patrick Henry compared to our current Black Panther President. So what if one (Yeah, right) American LEO and over 300 Mexicans were killed?

32 posted on 12/20/2011 3:20:02 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Logical me

“He is building his army of criminals and thugs. Do any doubt that? “

No doubt at all, but his “army” is a joke. Holder sent his fat slob SEIU “peoples” to disrupt our tea party meeting. By the time we were done with them, they had locked themselves in a building and were crying for the cops to rescue them.


33 posted on 12/20/2011 3:20:06 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Progov
What I would like to know is WHY the gaggle of Republican presidential candidates are not even mentioning F&F.

The first one to bring it out in the open for all to hear will be my choice.

Finally: Fast and Furious Comes up as GOP Debate Topic

Fox News host Megyn Kelly asked the question about Fast and Furious without mentioning Brian Terry, didn't give background on the operation and framed it in a way that benefited Eric Holder. She asked Rick Santorum and Rick Perry if republicans were politicizing the scandal by calling for his resignation. Rick Perry has joined with 57 House Republicans in calls for Holder to resign immediately.

Megyn Kelly? 8^)
34 posted on 12/20/2011 3:20:11 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
NO, Obama Killed people to destroy gun rights. The only good news is he killed less people trying to get rid of guns than he would kill if he had succeeded.
35 posted on 12/20/2011 8:08:39 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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>>No doubt at all, but his “army” is a joke. Holder sent his fat slob SEIU “peoples” to disrupt our tea party meeting. By the time we were done with them, they had locked themselves in a building and were crying for the cops to rescue them.

Hm, now that sounds like a story. Care to share?


36 posted on 12/21/2011 7:42:54 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem

All gun control laws endanger American lives. They do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns. Because criminals do not obey laws.


37 posted on 12/21/2011 9:45:33 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: OneWingedShark

It looks like YouTube has mixed in the various Tea Party events all onto one page. You’ll need to sift through these videos to find the incident with SEIU in Greenville, SC. There was a YouTube page which featured only the Greenville event, but I can’t find it. Sorry.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=greenville+tea+party+%2b+2009+%2b+you+tube&qpvt=greenville+tea+party+%2b+2009+%2b+you+tube&FORM=VDRE


38 posted on 12/21/2011 2:32:12 PM PST by sergeantdave
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