Posted on 12/20/2011 6:23:02 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
In spin rooms, bar rooms and online forums, the what-to-do-about-Paul conversation has become pervasive as polls show him at or near the top here just weeks before the January 3rd vote.
Paul poses an existential threat to the states cherished kick-off status, say these Republicans, because he has little chance to win the GOP nomination and would offer the best evidence yet that the caucuses reward candidates who are unrepresentative of the broader party.
It would make the caucuses mostly irrelevant if not entirely irrelevant, said Becky Beach, a longtime Iowa Republican who helped Presidents Bush 41 and Bush 43 here. It would have a very damaging effect because I dont think he could be elected president and both Iowa and national Republicans wouldnt think he represents the will of voters.
What especially worries Iowa Republican regulars is the possibility that Paul could win here on January 3rd with the help of Democrats and independents who change their registration to support the libertarian-leaning Texas congressman but then dont support the GOP nominee next November.
I dont think any candidate perverting the process in that fashion helps [the caucuses] in any way, said Iowa House Speaker Kraig Paulsen, adding that he didnt know if thats necessarily how Paul would win.
While theres no evidence of an organized effort, public polling shows that Pauls lead is built in large part with the support of non-Republicans and few party veterans think such voters would stick with the GOP in November.
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Gringrich is being dragged down by the weight of his own baggage, nothing else.
Not to mention all the Paul operatives who are swarming Iowa. When this is allowed to happen, not election will be fair and honest.
Not at all, it is people like you who are making it an issue. You would gladly forsake the future of your own country out of spite and bias for something you are completely ignorant about.
Anybody who panics the RINO Establishment can’t be all bad.
Iowa's anyway. Every cloud...
LOL! I love that graphic. But in all seriousness, this is no longer a laughing matter. This country is going down the tubes, and our own side is playing the biggest part in making that happen!
Ron Paul will win Iowa ... then be out of the race in a month.
Paul’s rise in polls is only that... a rise in polls.
His army of flying spam monkeys used this same tactic on his last failed run.
Not one word was said about the “RINO” establishment. It merely pointed out the dedicated conservatives who has been voting in Iowa for decades are being canceled out by the Paultards.
Much like you are doing in regards to destroying our chances of winning this election.
It doesn't even represent the voters in the state, much less the nation. Iowa can switch to a real primary or be left out.
Good points humble, I am somewhat perplexed over the situation. (What gave you the first hint?)
But in all truth, we have to win Iowa for Newt, mainly because he is short of funds and organization, due to those short funds. If Iowa goes to Paul, it won’t hurt Romney one bit, but the momentum for Newt in New Hampshire may be critical.
Straw Polls are garbage politics for sure, but the MSM takes them to manipulate their enemies (That be us.)
They are legitimizing these lies as big news. The same way they launched a completely incompetent candidate like Cain to the top over night. They seem to take great pride in the power they have over the ignorant American Public.
>> Anybody who panics the RINO Establishment cant be all bad. >>
In general, I agree with that sentiment. But one has to properly apply that sentiment here.
First, the Iowans know that a Paul victory probably makes the Iowa Caucuses a joke forever. This is not the DC RINO establishment.
In fact, the DC Establishment is fine with that, because they think Newt will suffer more from this than Romney, who has NH to rally in the very next week.
So be careful which “establishment” you are talking about.
>> But in all seriousness, this is no longer a laughing matter. This country is going down the tubes, and our own side is playing the biggest part in making that happen! >>
And if on the way down, MB or RS suddenly surge in the polls - I”m sure they will handle the heat magnificently!! /sarc
This country is going down the tubes, and our own side is playing the biggest part in making that happen!
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No sh*t! We are pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory
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