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To: Pan_Yan
When talking about Ron Paul's positions we have to decide whether we're talking about his positions from the perspective of electability, constitutionality, conservative values, or reality.

For example, do I think that Medicare and Social Security are unconstitutional? That depends on whether you accept that our court system ultimately determines constitutionality. If so, that and 40 million dead babies since Roe versus Wade are perfectly constitutional. But if you're definition of constitutionality has to do with original intent irrespective of intervening Supreme Court findings of penumbras, you have a different conclusion and a different discussion.

If you're talking about legalizing cocaine, I am for it but I do not think any candidate for it has a ghost of a chance of getting elected. So when we discuss Paul's drug policy, are we talking about it in terms of constitutionality or electability or whether it makes practical sense? I think it makes eminent practical and constitutional sense but very poor electability sense.

If we are talking about his views on why we were attacked on 9/11, and whether we are in danger from a nuclear Iran, I think reality makes him look pretty silly. But when he says that we have not made America safer by our action in Iraq, reality makes him look less silly and, when weighed against the cost, reality makes him look rather wise.

My problem with dealing with Paul bots is that they jump from one criterion to another and we are always jousting with phantoms.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 4:24:20 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

“My problem with dealing with Paul bots is that they jump from one criterion to another and we are always jousting with phantoms.””

If you want to see some good comedy just ask a paulbot how the mighty paul will be able to close down all our foreign bases and get rid of all the federal drug laws.

They like to live in a dream world and I suspect to most of them that dream world is in their moms basement.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 4:36:07 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: nathanbedford

The problem is that Paul straddles the line between genius and lunacy, but the other candidates are clearly on the side of lunacy, at least in their domestic policies.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 5:07:42 AM PST by Daveinyork
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