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Why Ron Paul Can Never Be President In 12 Quotes
Townhall.com ^ | December 20, 2011 | John Hawkins

Posted on 12/20/2011 3:57:27 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: edpc

“Right.....because they wouldn't have used some of the money to get more slaves from outside sources.”

I don't support Ron Paul, but he does make a valid point on this subject.

The importation of new slaves to the Southern states actually ended around 1820.

The British Parliament outlawed the African slave trade about 1815.

The British Navy sealed off North American trade by about 1820.

The slave trade to South America and the Caribbean would continue for several more decades, but much reduced in numbers.

Almost all “new” slaves in the South after 1820 were people born into slavery.

If Lincoln had made the offer to buy all slaves, then followed up with a propaganda blitz about how slavery crushed the wages for unskilled white Southerners, there's a chance the Civil War could have been avoided.

The main problem was what to do with the newly free slaves.

Southerners didn't want them wandering around the South.

Northerners were almost as racist as Southerners, and would never have agreed to accept millions of free slaves.

Sending them back to Africa was just a political fantasy, as Liberia proved to be.

By the way, I have never bought into the whole “Preserve The Union” rationale that Lincoln used to begin hostilities.

I mean, updated to 2011, if California and New York City decided to secede, would you charge across an open field into canon fire to keep them here?

Not me, dude.

Take the slavery issue out of the Civil War, and there would have been no Civil War.

41 posted on 12/20/2011 11:46:59 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin
5) On Abe Lincoln

I don’t think he was one of our greatest presidents. I mean, he was determined to fight a bloody civil war, which many have argued could have been avoided. For 1/100 the cost of the war, plus 600 thousand lives, enough money would have been available to buy up all the slaves and free them. So, I don’t see that is a good part of our history. Besides, the Civil War was to prove that we had a very, very strong centralized federal government and that’s what it did. It rejected the notion that states were a sovereign nation.

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ABRAHAM LINCOLN

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

NOVEMBER 19, 1863 - GETTYSBUG, PENNSYLVANIA

42 posted on 12/20/2011 4:22:58 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m not a Ron Paul voter, but...in fact most of those quotes I agreed with.

If Romney is the candidate, and RP goes 3rd Party? SORRY, MR. ROMNEY.....

AND: I think RP’s Iowa showing could be the result of a liberal, “Operation Chaos”.


43 posted on 12/20/2011 6:36:21 PM PST by gaijin
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Just want to add that even on the life issue LIBertarianism has skewed his thinking, as when he voted here:

“Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)

Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)”

http://activote.ontheissues.org/AVA/Ron_Paul.htm


44 posted on 12/21/2011 12:00:39 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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