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GOP will take off the gloves if Ron Paul wins Iowa
Washington Examiner ^ | 121811 | Tim Carney

Posted on 12/18/2011 9:57:35 PM PST by Fred

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To: Designer; Vision

Paul supporters say he is a constitutionalists all the time. How is that possible when he has zip zero nada understanding of defense of this country.


121 posted on 12/20/2011 9:17:20 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Fred
GOP will take off the gloves


123 posted on 12/20/2011 1:43:49 PM PST by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: svcw
"..understanding of defense of this country."

Oh, he does, and so do I. Apparently better than you do.

FYI: there is a fundamental difference between actual defense and nation-building in places where the residents don't want their nation built, and have absolutely no concept of what freedom means.

124 posted on 12/20/2011 2:47:18 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Designer

I said defense, not nation building.
You can support whom ever you wish.
I will not support Paul for all the reasons people have listed previously, so no point in going back over facts of who Paul is as.....oh never mind, there is little point into talking to paulbots.


125 posted on 12/20/2011 3:00:06 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Yehuda
Here is where Jeffery Lord is wrong:

"To promise that one would end human conflict.."

Yup, only a complete ignoramus would invent a position not attributable to Ron Paul and then procede to write a whole article based on an incorrect assumption.

Then have it published in The American Spectator.

If you are in the habit of reading such trash, it is no wonder you don't know what is going on.

126 posted on 12/20/2011 3:00:50 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Vision
"He was offering to investigate 9/11 on the video."

And why not? I am in favor of a real investigation, not the B-S version of hoopla that the so-called "9-11 Commission" came up with.

That piece of crap "report" was not worth the paper it was written on.

Having said that, does that make me or Ron Paul anywhere near someone who thinks it "was an inside job"?

No.

You can jump to all the conclusions you want to, but you'd be wrong.

127 posted on 12/20/2011 3:07:34 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Nice try but........Yer an idiot Paultard! Run fer the Hills! The evil Amerikun Armee is Kumming!
128 posted on 12/20/2011 3:08:50 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Vision
Oh, one more thing: There was a link to a video that supposedly "proved" that Ron Paul agreed with the "truther".

He didn't.

The whole stupid video was very obviously a setup designed to trap Ron Paul into saying something the "truthers" wanted to get on video, but Ron Paul is too smart to fall for that cheap trick.

So am I.

But perhaps you aren't.

129 posted on 12/20/2011 3:13:35 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Designer
Go away Truther.
130 posted on 12/20/2011 3:16:40 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision; Designer

Vision, apparently if you say “it was a set up”, “he didn’t write that”, “he didn’t know what was on the web sites attributed to him”, “its not his fault”, “you are to stupid to not understand”, “he is the only one who understands”....are the phrases for this month.
I have a question however, if Paul is so easily set up, so easily fooled, so compliment about people who represent him - how on earth would anyone would think such a simpleton could be president.


131 posted on 12/20/2011 3:26:07 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Vision

Offering to investigate 9/11 is not the same thing as saying that he thinks it was an “inside job”. Even the Chairmen of the 9/11 Commission noted that their investigation into 9/11 was thwarted therefore investigating this heinous crime would seem appropriate. Paul noted how governments have a record of covering things up & certainly the victims would like to know the full extent of what happened.

Paul did quite well on Leno in fact.

I am not “a Paul person” but he is the most consistently conservative [ & libertarian too - BUT in a small government / Constitutionalist manner ] candidate running & is the only one who will abolish the Federal Reserve. Considering the economic disaster we are facing because of debt based monetary policy: I would say that this is the most important election topic.


133 posted on 12/20/2011 11:06:47 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: svcw

Nice try but this [ http://www.voteview.com/Is_John_Kerry_A_Liberal.htm ] was the source. The Paul website simply linked to it. Seems that those sources have a different definition for conservative or use a different method of criteria. Those are still high percentages.


134 posted on 12/20/2011 11:16:23 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: svcw
Ron Paul is an old school conservative. More on this at this link. Remember: he noted that the Republican Party has largely walked away from its erstwhile conservative principles. Paul was not the one who changed: it was the Republican Party [ & its leftist infiltration ] that changed.

The average Iranians are pro west & like America & ALSO want to change their government. They tried in the last election cycle but the regime repressed their choice. Attacking Iran will only harden the average Iranians just as we did to the Serbs back in 1999. We really must stop making the SAME mistake over & over again. You might want to remember that the pro war position was the original position of the Left & that the anti war position was the original position of the Right before the conservative movement was infiltrated by pro war Leftists. Pointed out right here on Free Republic [ at this old link: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b62203120ce.htm which can be accessed right here from the Internet Archive. ] over a decade ago now.

The Iranian regime spouts off bellicose nonsense in order to intimidate but they are all bark. Just think about it for a second here. What sense does it make for them to get belligerent or ATTACK anyone considering that that would be SUICIDE & a death sentence for them. Israel alone has hundreds of nukes so if Iran were ever to foolishly attack them: they would be annihilated in short order. How hard is that to understand. All I see is the usual pro war rhetoric based on the same recycled canards. Let's get back to Constitutional principles & fix America first.

135 posted on 12/20/2011 11:49:37 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: svcw
Nice try but you are misrepresenting Paul once again. He was talking about how the government capitalized on using 9/11 as an excuse to go to war. None other than Don Rumsfeld admitted to that. Rumsfled noted how he wanted to attack Iraq right after 9/11 so Paul is not exactly out of line here. The 9/11 Truth movement dislikes Ron Paul as he has PUBLICLY attacked the notion of 9/11 being an inside job. Watch this video right here where Ron Paul puts the record straight & points out that he does not support the notion that 9/11 was an inside job. Some 9/11 Truthers were trying to claim Paul as their own & tried to insinuate that he supported them simply because Paul supports open investigations of government BUT he does not support the outlandish claims of the Thurthers. Once again you desperately misrepresent Paul.
136 posted on 12/21/2011 12:02:42 AM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Disparaging Ron Paul & misrepresenting his positions is not a legitimate form of rebuttal. All I ever see from the anti-Paul folks is ad hominem attacks & flagrant misrepresentation of his positions. Few bother to actually read up on what he actually supports. Paul wants to abolish the Federal Reserve so that we can restore the spending power of the dollar & get out of this escalating debt nightmare that is bankrupting the nation. Paul wants to restore the Constitution & the republic.


137 posted on 12/21/2011 12:09:16 AM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
The Iranian regime spouts off bellicose nonsense in order to intimidate but they are all bark. Just think about it for a second here. What sense does it make for them to get belligerent or ATTACK anyone considering that that would be SUICIDE & a death sentence for them.

You assume far too much.

Adolf Hitler, like Ahmadinejad, told in advance of exactly what he intended to do. Nobody believed him. Just as you don't believe Ahmadinejad, evidently.

The world paid a price for not heeding the warnings.

And, in Iran's case, you should note that "SUICIDE and a death sentence" may be exactly what they wish. The regime's apocalyptic view of the "Twelfth Imam" calls for martyrdom. Thus, a policy of Mutally Assured Destruction would be irrelevant to such an adversary.

138 posted on 12/21/2011 12:19:52 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Jim Robinson

If taking the gloves off means anything, he will be exposed for the person he is.

That may just end his third party threats and, hopefully, quite a bit of support.


139 posted on 12/21/2011 12:39:00 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: Old Sarge

“He forgot racist, anti-Semitic, Jew-hating, isolationist and 9-11 Truther.”

I hope I’m not being a Pollyanna when I say that I don’t believe that many of his current supporters know that about him.


140 posted on 12/21/2011 12:40:45 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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